ILNFL sandbox thread, because you shouldn't pass up a chance to LOL @ the NY Giants

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I can kinda see Eisbar wearing a buttass plaid blazer, to be honest (no offense).

David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that is basically OTM but OTOH Tony Romo is still in the beauty pageantpro-bowl, what a wacky, wacky world we live in :\

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/friday_night_lights/_group_photos/michael_irvin30.jpg

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha the best part of that TO post-spitting interview was still Deion freaking out about how "You know we don't talk to Michael Irvin! No one should talk to Michael Irvin!"

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i still love how tv analysts insist eli would have been taken #1 even if his name was eli roffling or something. that last name has clout, son!

tony romo is now allegedly dating carrie underwood. dude is making the rounds!

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretending that the Giants problem is any one of the players and not entirely the coach + repping Mangina as COY = U R ON MY SHITLIST, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, MICHAEL IRVIN???

well, OF COURSE the giants' problem isn't any one of their players (though eli is kind of a bust, admit it) and it is really coughlin -- i mean, the reason why mangini is getting so much love is because he has a team that, on paper, is not as talented as the giants -- yet it's the jets and not the giants who are doing well.

popshots: i heart LC and yes, while he isn't an elite receiver he is still much much better than NFL most receivers. i was more harsh on laveranues than i really intended to be -- i really meant to say that he and pennington are the only two offensive standouts (no disrespect to cotchery, either), and they are really kinda symbiotic wr2 the jets' offense (washington's great game vs. miami notwithstanding, neither he nor kevan barlow are making anyone forget that the jets have no running game w/t curtis martin).

Eisbär (Eisbär), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I basically think only completely insane people who have no idea what they are talking about would refer to a basically-second-year QB who is sometimes erratic but has good numbers and is playing for a shitty coach a "bust"? What on earth does that make Rex Grossman, Ryan Leaf?

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Whichever of the Williams sisters that is needs to step up their dating game yesterday.

Kevin Barlow is a choad (& not just because he singlehandedly helped torpedo my ILNFL team). It's all about LEON:

http://www.adweek.com/aw/images/best_spots/best_spots_03/1013_bs04.gif

David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm totally willing to believe that eli could turn it around, guy's not exactly a vet past the point of no return. elway sort of sucked for half a decade, right?

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

elway sort of sucked for half a decade, right?

yeah, ask cleveland.

otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ben Roethlisberger IS Rick Mirer, etc etc. I mean I'm not going to claim Eli as best QB ever by any means but he hasn't played badly at all, suffers (as do all of the Giants) from a meglomaniacal coach who couldn't scheme his way consistently past a bunch of kittens much less good teams, and receivers who seem to be on strike until Coughlin is fired. Eli isn't even given the leeway to audible for god's sake. If Eli plays very erratically next year under a different coach with a better system you might have a point but pointing at a dude's second year under Coughlin and calling him a bust is about as Michael Irvinesque as one can get. Without wearing a giant red clown suit, I mean.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

from 83-92 he had only one season where his qb rating was above 80! playoff games aside, dude wasn't a hall of famer at that point. his last six seasons are what got him into canton.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jay Cutler IS Akili Smith!

David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dr Z:

5. Indianapolis Colts (11-4)

OK, they might be futzing around at this point in the season, losing to the Texans and everything, but Ron Dayne, who has yet to make a cut, gaining 153 against them? C'mon now. I mean granted, he's 300 pounds and only two feet tall, but getting mushed by an O-line that's responsible for only the 24th ranked rushing offense? Don't spread this around, but I don't think Indy is very good against the run.

6. New Orleans Saints (10-5)

They came into Giants Stadium and offered the game to the home team. "Here, you want it?" They proved it by dropping 10 passes. The Giants said no thank you, it would just confuse our fans. So the Saints walked away with the 30-7 win, and here's my favorite stat, the likes of which I have never seen before: New Orleans ran 54 plays in Giants' territory. And how many plays did New York run on the Saints' side? Zero.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

god did you guys start taking crazypills or something

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"(though pretending Pennington sucks is a bit of a stretch)."

lolol you used to be hella like "LMBO @ PENNINGTON HE SUX >:O!!!!!!" that is an exact quote. payton for COTY tho, yeah. Mangini should be in the convo (I TOLD YALL THE JETS WOULD BE GOOD) along with Jeff Fisher, tho i sorta wonder why COTY always goes to a guy whose team sucked for the first quarter of the season and then turned it around. how about giving it to someone whose team has been good all along? also who do you guys think should be gettin' sum awardz:

MVP: LDT & Brees should split it imo
OROY: Marcus McNeill
DROY: I dunno, Demeco Ryans? I haven't seen any Texans games so I dunno if he is actually any good~
DPOY: Jason Taylor duhrrrr
OPOY: uh god i dunno, peyton manning or something. i think you could mb make a better case for him as MVP than the last couple years, just because his team is suddenly so much worse

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite thing about mangini is that he wore breakaway pants on sesame street. i mean, really dude? you couldn't find some jeans? also i love that everyone decided he was a genius before he even coached a game, i guess he used to hang out with belichick so HE MUST BE A MASTERMIND~~~~~~~~~

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

aidsy, when I said that I thought the Jets would make the playoffs you asked me if I started taking crazy pills then too. Make up yr mind, son. Wait, maybe that was otto being a nutty Pats dude. I'll give you a pass on that, only because I can't search and see which one of you said that. Please note I still laugh my ass off at Pennington, but I don't think even Michael Irvin would claim dude can only throw ten yards.

6. New Orleans Saints (10-5)

They came into Giants Stadium and offered the game to the home team. "Here, you want it?" They proved it by dropping 10 passes. The Giants said no thank you, it would just confuse our fans. So the Saints walked away with the 30-7 win, and here's my favorite stat, the likes of which I have never seen before: New Orleans ran 54 plays in Giants' territory. And how many plays did New York run on the Saints' side? Zero.

^^^ this is hilarious

xpost yes which is why I really would like to punch Mangina fans in the nuts, this is what I have been saying. OMG HE MADE A MIDDLING TEAM MIDDLING BUT HE BLEW BELICHICK ONE TIME: BEST EVER. It's ok though because I got ppl all on my side already :D

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Please note I still laugh my ass off at Pennington, but I don't think even Michael Irvin would claim dude can only throw ten yards.

yeah -- that's joe theismann that says shit like that.

Eisbär (Eisbär), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Payton for coach of the year not least because, um, I find him very attractive. shut up.

in theory I admire the Jets and wish them well, but they are so, so boring to watch. I fell asleep during the first quarter of their Monday night game with Miami.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone who coaches for Bill B. automatically loses the ability to dress themselves

clevo lk (clevo lk), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i flipped the Monday Night game on and it was 0-0 to start the 3rd quarter. DO NOT WATCH

clevo lk (clevo lk), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god that Monday night game would've been totally intolerable had I not been drinking heavily while it was on.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i miss having cable tv but hearing about a 0-0 game, between the jests and 'phins no less, is heartening.

otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I slept better during that game than I've slept in ages! NY Jets=very soothing.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

you didn't think the "drama" about whether cotchery was in the end zone or not was, um, kinda interesting? or what about that poor jets special teams dude that got chumped b/c the ball bounced offa his back and the dolphins recovered?!?

Eisbär (Eisbär), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway chad loves all y'all:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5719/pennmarshallsg6.gif

Eisbär (Eisbär), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's my TOES."

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"ev'body's STONED!"

otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"...ate my DOUGHnut!"

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

who do you guys think should be gettin' sum awardz:

Your choices are all correct except I would also pick LDT for OPOY and I wouldn't even think about Brees for MVP. I mean he's been good and everything but come on, this is just sentimental pish-posh.

Michael (Oakland Mike), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

DROY: kamerion wimbley or tamba hali

i think breezy is pretty deserving, though the last coupla saints games have been a little underwhelming. he's a solid number 2 behind ladainian, if nothing else.

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

MVP: Peyton, that team is lucky to crack .500 without him
OROY: Young, but it's pretty stiff competition. I'd go with Colston second, then maybe MOJO. They're never giving it to a lineman, dude.
DROY: got me, Ryans, I suppose?
DPOY: Taylor
OPOY: Ladainian

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

oh oh, i forgot Champ Bailey for DPOY. he and taylor should split it. the fact that he leads the league in INTs for two consecutive years even though nobody really throws to him is pretty unbelievable. dude is on some next-level shit.

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Pennington isn't a bad quarterback. I'm not going to claim him as a HOFer or anything like that but he's good at what he does. And the arm is better than people think. The Jets look like a .500 team and give or take a few breaks or bounces their record could just as easily be 6-9 as 9-6. I suspect they'll make the playoff, but it will be a one and done. Mangini's done a good coaching job, but Payton's still coach of the year.

Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

They're never giving it to a lineman, dude.

So what?

Michael (Oakland Mike), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

he's a solid number 2 behind ladainian, if nothing else.

I'd go:

1. LDT
2. They're saying "Mooooooovers"
3. Brees
4. LJ
5. Frank Gore

Michael (Oakland Mike), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

So what?

So, reality check. All else being equal, I'd still have to go with Young. Dude's been winning games on his lonesome.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

you mean aside from the game that pacman won? the guy is legit though.

comeback player of the year: javon walker?

aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Possibly. Maybe McGahee or Gore.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

now that i think about it, CPOY should be warren sapp. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him dominate brian waters like he did on saturday. maybe waters is just more washed up than him, but i find that hard to believe.

aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

T.O. for comeback player of the year!

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, not Gore. Kinda hard to comeback in your second year. Never mind.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, that's just spitting in the wind.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Young's had a good rookie year. But the real story for Tennessee has been the defense. They've won a few games on their own and have kept the scores close enough so that Young can do his thing. I like how Norm Chow and Fisher have tailored the offense to suit Young's skills. Seeing how Tennessee started with five losses and the way they've recovered I think Fisher ought to be in the running for COY.

How about Norm Chow to Atlanta for head coach? Now that might be a good fit.

Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Vince Young is definitely the straw that stirs the Titans drink, as once he got in the the lineup, their offense could control the ball which led to their defense improving as they were not having to play 3/4 of a game. I think Travis Henry deserves something, as that dude has played great for Tennessee.

Payton is coach of the year. Anyone that wins with the Saints should be coach of the year, let alone all that went down last year. Criminy, the dude deserves some serious points for just how he skunked Parcells in Dallas with a few calls coming up right. NO's general manager Loomis deserves some serious props, as that guy made a few calls in both the draft and free agency which look sweet. Colston looks to be the steal of the draft.


Linebacker AJ Hawk has also had a good rookie year for the Packers. I've been impressed by what I have seen from him.

earlnash (earlnash), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Before I totally forget:

Sometime last week, I woke up (in the PM) to Colin Cowherd on ESPN Radio trying to justify Matt Millen's continued employment. His defense: a large number of the guys that MM drafted are starting for the Lions, so, hey, he must be doing something right.

David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

DPOY should go to devin hester since there's no STROY to give him.
alternatively the bears can win the super bowl and give him the MVP like the packers in 1996.

TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean seriously the packers won the super bowl that year guys and gave the mvp to their punt returner, have you heard about this? also brett favre once had an opiate problem.

TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes ESPN says the dumbest things. Millen may survive another year. He's like the cockroach of general managers.

Ice Ice Cream Baby (The Dirty Vicar), Thursday, 28 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Alternatively the Bears can just fuck the hell right off.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link


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