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guy is daft about '09

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

and 2007...

Otherwise Harris' essays have been as much a pleasure as Oscarbuzz crap can be.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Thought that would get a few scoffs. I will say all the movies in my top 4 right now would've been easy #1's for the last two or three years running.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

tis true for me, but I don't think any of mine except Of Gods and Men, maybe, are eligible for the Best Picture Oscar.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Then they don't exist.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

Also, Certified Copy is eligible, et al.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

not always sure what runs in LA

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

funniest top-10 critic pitch for Tree of Life, by Stephen Holden: "You couldn't accuse Terrence Malick of having a sense of humor...."

I mean, I've only been to Texas once, but Texas is funny.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure anyone besides Eric H. will care, but here's the good old FCF's* top 10:

1. The Tree of Life
2. Drive
3. Melancholia
4. The Descendants
5. Warrior
6. The Interrupters
7. Moneyball
8. The Artist
9. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
10. Super 8

*I haven't even seen this guy in a while; he's probably more like an acquaintance than a friend at this point.

jaymc, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

he really likes subtitles

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

FCA

Of what I've seen on the list, half really good, half mediocre. Is The Interrupters' presence a little residual Roger Ebert syndrome?

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

just watched Drive, about as expected, cept for the hilariously bad music.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

The music roolz

Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

yah sure

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:02 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I was back in fucking 1986

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

exactly

Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

(speaking of the needledrops more than the Cliff Martinez score, which still wasnt as good as his Contagion stuff)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

I assumed so. The Martinez score doesn't really draw attention to itself whereas the songs are incredibly self-conscious. They're a huge part of the movie though, it's pretty close to turning into a musical at times

Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

the dumbest musical since Lost Horizon.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I was back in fucking 1986

..but back then you would have just called it "European".

Tumblr Whites Off Earth Now!! (Sandbox Grisso-McCain), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

oh hey i saw 'shame' last night and it sucked

silvana mangano, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

in all kinda of ways!

btw Albert Brooks was entertaining, but I didn't believe a thing he did or said even on a dumbass thriller level bcz, u know, Albert fucking Brooks.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

Scotty boy likes Albert Nobbs.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

can anyone recommend any good essays on margaret? none of the reviews i've read really satisfied me. and also, your own thoughts? i saw it y'day and was kind of blown away

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

Is The Interrupters' presence a little residual Roger Ebert syndrome?

Could be. Also a fair amount of Chicago pride.

jaymc, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

Try Glenn Kenny's review, lex.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

thanks! yes, that is good.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.villagevoice.com/filmpoll/

Comments
Critics elaborate on their votes, favorite movie moments of the year and OK OK WE GET IT YOU LIKE MARGARET

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Morbs, your taste in music couldn't be less relevant to me.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

I thought this was an interesting comparison of Margaret and Bridesmaids, editing-wise:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2011/12/12/not-in-theaters-kenneth-lonergans-margaret

(The writer is the second-stringer at the Chicago Reader, a fairly sharp critic who apparently had a big crush on my wife years ago. She said he resembled Woody Allen.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

i'd also like to read any particularly good eviscerations of tree of life if you know any. god just remembering that film exists makes me angry.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

Start with the Film Comment Cannes report by Amy Taubin.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

And then get your mind right and start loving the film.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

I'm off today. Should I watch Tintin or catch up on The Muppets?

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

I slept in the morning I was supposed to see Tintin. I'd still recommend it over the new Muppets.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Morbs, your taste in music couldn't be less relevant to me.

I know; we're past the point where you have to comfort me by saying so.

David Edelstein's half-and-half review of Tree probably approximates my own feelings.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Tintin has many more 'filmic' qualities, but tho it's uneven I think Muppets has a couple bigger laughs. I guess it depends what you want.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

and I'm almost swayed by some of the praise for Young Adult...almost enough to forget the credits.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

I will probably see that at some point for P Oswalt.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

and I'm almost swayed by some of the praise for Young Adult...

I was too. Buuuut.... consider me a leeward wind blowing against the praise.

remy bean in exile, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Hoberman's top ten.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

interested, hoberman is my reliable personal opposite, ordinarily

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

though p reasonable in this case

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

VV's poll:

Best Actor: Michael Shannon
Best Actress: Anna Paquin
Supporting Actor: Albert Brooks
Supporting Actress: Jeannie Berlin

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

do i even bother watching melencholia at this point?

remy bean in exile, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

everyone seemed to love it?, like it seems as weirdly constant as anything, #3 in most polls or w/e. i thought it was p uninteresting

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think the final scene of Melancholia might be cued up on my TV for the New Years Eve countdown.

This is one of the reliably interesting elements of the VV poll:

The Passiondex™, is derived by multiplying a movie's average score by a percentage of those voters who marked it first or second or, because passion cuts two ways, declared it the year's worst movie. If the Passiondex™ is applied to the top 10 movies, Tree of Life drops to a temperate sixth place and A Separation to a reasonable 10th, with Melancholia (which garnered far more first- and second-place votes, as well as a nod for worst) the easy winner, followed by Mysteries of Lisbon, Certified Copy, Margaret, and Uncle Boonmee; if we open up the top 10 to the 20 highest vote-getters, Melancholia is displaced by The Artist (which boasts three worst votes), and Tree of Life falls to 10th as Hugo, Steve McQueen's sex-addiction drama Shame (#18), and Jean-Luc Godard's impenetrable Film Socialisme (#20) elbow their way into the top 10.

What happens when we open things up to the entire poll? The two Cannes laureates, Uncle Boonmee and Tree of Life, vanish — the latter actually outpointed by the Portuguese fado-drag opera To Die Like a Man (#27). Applying the Pash across the board yields a surprising result: Moving into first with every single one of its seven voters ranking it first or second to achieve an unprecedented perfect Passiondex™ ratio, the late Edward Yang's 1991 epic youth drama A Brighter Summer Day (#23), which had its first local theatrical run at the Elinor Bunin Munroe Film Center in November, wins!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

In 2011's echo chamber of movies celebrating movies (The Artist, Hugo, My Week with Marilyn), only one of them fully functioned as a well-tooled thrill machine on its own terms, and that was Drive. You could pick out the '80s homage stuck between your teeth, or simply savor the perfect action."—Joshua Rothkopf

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Patton Oswalt kicks no ass, in particular, in Young Adult. Instead, he plays a man that's absorbed a lot of abuse.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

I'm surprised Viola Davis wasn't included in that Graph of Shame starring Fassbender and Chastain.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link


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