is OK Computer a terrible album y/n

what the hell are you talking about

I suggest thinking about the phrase. Perhaps while listening to, say, "Kama Police."

a starchy, coldly insensitive, often highly patronizing jerk, from and of a wealthy class seeking to preserve its privileges

Hey, I'm just upper middle class (and downwardly mobile). I also try to reserve my freezerburn for assholes.

I thought that was referring to Little Thommy Yorke

Me, too.

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man people have really confused ideas about the word 'melody'

Should I mention on this thread too that they're headlining (Saturday nights at) Coachella?

(And I think Bonnaroo?)

I don't really think that TY can really refer to himself as "middle class" any more though lord knows he tries. That rlly wound me up on the OLSX video - and the Fucken narcissism of small difference of claiming with a smirk "I couldn't be PM I didn't go to the right school" as if there's such a massive difference between Eton and Abingdon but this is where I calm down and remember I'd still lick his bald patch and there's a pint with my name on it down in the next village. Night all.

Ha-ha, I put that on the wrong thread, didn't I?

David Cameron has a bald patch? (xp)

I suggest thinking about the phrase. Perhaps while listening to, say, "Kama Police."

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Maybe YOU'RE the one who should relisten to this song since the only reasonable interpretation of that sentence (an instrument plays the melody before Thom sings it) doesn't happen in it? Also, even if an instrument DID play the melody before the singer came in, that is a perfectly acceptable way to introduce the listener to the song and not actually a "problem", unless you also have problems with all kinds of classical and baroque music too.

One last complaint about the prevalence of Thonny slash over the far superior and more canonical Thozzie slash and kids today they don't know they're born before I drop over the last granite Carn and lose reception forever!

To say nothin' of the prevalence of Fozzie Slash...

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Maybe YOU'RE the one who should relisten to this song since the only reasonable interpretation of that sentence (an instrument plays the melody before Thom sings it) doesn't happen in it?

Ok, I'll spell it out - I mean the way he has to really draw out the words/melody, in time. If the song were a little faster, it's fairly limited melody would be more apparent. And I did just listen to the song. It isn't quite as big a factor as I remembered, but it's still there.

Oh no, I'm becoming Geir, aren't I?

But doesn't he love Radiohead?

haha yes and yes

Yeah, we'll they're the sort of pretentious faux-classical music he seeks. And, to be clear, what I want from them is more James Brown.

They must be melodic then

I shit you not, I just went in the pub and they were playing sodding Mogwai. Melody was really not that much of a priority in 1997.

My point is, Radiohead wasn't offering much else, back then at least

It was just the style then!

That has just reminded me of the other reason to dislike this album + Karma Police especially because it made it officially Not OK to like fridge buzz any more. And for like 94-96 fridge buzz was a big thing in the Drone Community. Like after a big night of listening to Sonic Boom playing LaMonte Young Dream Music at Sound Lab we'd come back to my mate Anton's house with a bunch of Illbient dudes and skin up - the first time it happened it was by accident, Anton had gone out to get more wine and we were all "Aw man he's just left the most amazing music on for us" like some out take of SAW2. And about an hour later Anton came back and he was all "guise the record ended after 15 minutes you Fucken hippies have been listening to my fridge for 45 minutes!"

And Fucken Karma Police, man, that just ruined it for us ever after. I wanna reclaim fridge buzz for the droners and ambient heads (iPhone just corrected "droner" to "stoner" ha ha)

I mean, was OKC really tuneless compared to God! Speed! You! Fucken! Canadians or whatever? Not rlly no

I'd rather listen to Anton's fridge buzzing than Fucken Penderecki any day I tell ya.

Fuck it just started pelting with rain I gotta get off the pier.

I like this album a lot.

well sure but it's left us with a world in which bad things still happen

this album is pretty good. haven't listened to it in years. i remember my freshman year of college someone telling me it was great, and i wasn't interested, but he played "let down" and we danced around the room. memories.

To say nothin' of the prevalence of Fozzie Slash...

If we get to Fonzie Slash we'll have jumped the shark.

I do this too! "OK computer, I'm tired of these error messages now".

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(where's the cabbage?
what's a cucumber?)

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i haven't listened to it much since high school but the last 2 songs are still really pretty

it's real good

Is it just trendy to say you hate Radiohead?

yes

also some people do actually hate them

like dark chocolate and red wine, it's good for the heart.

i like it

geir much prefers the bends iirc

I don't about "everyone", but "more people", yeah.

would probably stop a lot of the real nitpicky complaints and such. like that thing about how it's not "melodic enough" or whatever, like, how can you even claim that? after everything I'd heard about the group I thought I'd hate 'em, only to actually hear the album and realize that it's just kind of normal high-quality alt-pop

i never liked this band why is the guy always whining abt things, i dont understand what hes talking abt

I've never listened to this album. I had the Bends on cassette, tho.

that thing about how it's not "melodic enough" or whatever, like, how can you even claim that?

By listening to it and being honest? I suppose some familiarity with very basic musical theory might help, but it's hardly necessary.

good point. i'm an idiot!

I don't think being more like Tears For Fears would make OK Computer appear any less pretentious.

but for everyone else's amusement, please elaborate on how "very basic musical theory" makes this album sound bad to you

"very basic musical theory" doesn't "make[]" the album "sound bad" to me, it just helps describes why it doesn't sound good.

care to elaborate even a little

I mean no offense but that is just the laziest argument. it's like the 20-somethings who try to convince me why Dragonforce is the greatest band in the history of music, because "I took music classes and I understand what these guys are doing, if you don't I guess you'll never get it"

he's just saying the melodic range isn't wide enough to be interesting, which is kind of a silly thing to say about a 90s rock song

I'm saying, essentially, graph the notes (in your head). The melody isn't very interesting, which is obscured by Yorke's singing it in a whiny, drawn-out, pretentious Anglo drawl.

xp - Right, but it isn't silly because melody is basically all it has going for it.

so what constitutes an "interesting" melody in your opinion? it's not like you can play this stuff on a piano with one finger, like it's Nickelback or something