itt liverpool not winning things; sandbox i love football

can't argue with Bruce's pedigree in dumping one go-nowhere club for the next one that offered him 3 quid a week more

i think that was his first proper sacking? also mcleish has never been properly and summarily sacked, was a sort of benitez 'leave at the end of the season' ish

tscchhhh my least fav fitba hack daniel taylor just voted the goalshy golem's shinned volley vs city last year as the best EPL goal ever ever

I wouldn't say Bruce was a *bad* manager - he was perfectly good in a limited sort of way (i.e. avoiding relegation with middling clubs). I thought the reason he was disliked was because of his lack of loyalty at the start of his managerial career.

The reason I dislike him is because his teams are painfully shit to watch. They just seem like futile creations with no agenda. Most other clubs in the Premiership during his time have had a tactical ~way~ whether they are good or not, but Bruce teams have always been a hodge-podge of players just told to go out there and exist. Has he ever shown tactical nous? Like if you look at his signings they have always been 'well i need a centre forward' 'what type of centre forward?' 'who cares? just see who is available'.

It is the same thing of why people like Coyle more than they did Megson, at least Coyle's team play a tactic and play as a team, whether successful or not.

I hate him for his disloyalty coupled with no problem ever finding a new sap to take him on, plus his toadying to Ferguson. Keano otm.

But mostly because he's just a nothing, no style, no interesting quirks, no particular reason to wish him or his teams well. You've got to hate someone, and absent a pantomime villain guys like Bruce are as useful for that as anyone.

his whinging, dear christ the whinging.

He buys blanks that might be players but he can't whittle for shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bQ9xBoKxo

Ouch, I just found out about Scott Dann's injury and now I want to cry.

argh, the rooney's video gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feurle7qkfQ

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked

http://i.imgur.com/AefLK.jpg

http://takusahrisau.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/mourinhosirbobbyronaldo.jpg

That reminds me :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GqqZpO1dgVg#t=89s

(footage of an extremely fat Ronaldo in a charity match last week)

related to the pitch invasion link I posted above, an interview with the founder, my friend Tom

http://afootballreport.com/post/14504885566/tom-dunmore-pitch-invasion-mls-invasion-football

4-4, both managers to be sacked by the morning.

http://i.minus.com/ib1OZYz7T99Nma.gif

This is the big one. Venky's to hammer 'em I fancy.

fuckin soft

Suarez banned for eight games for being a racist!

....

good?

Of course. He pretty much admitted it. It's nice to see a serious punishment attached.

Eight match ban apparently makes you a trending topic on twitter. I thought he'd died or something.

course

john terry denying it will mean that he gets a harsher punishment, right?

right?

Seven match ban last season, eight this. Wonder what he's gonna do to beat his record next year

I wish we had details of the evidence. I'll admit to being a bit surprised. Can't argue with it, but that length of ban is very rare, no?

Ya IK, that's how I feel. He must have outright admitted it?

He admitted saying it (whatever it was) but the way it was reported as hingeing on semantics and cultural connotations made me think it was going to be a 'slightly guilty', if that.

It doesn't leave much wriggle room on Terry, anyway.

def. feel vindicated making that 'who will have a more lol liverpool career' poll in february now, even if ronan was annoyed by the audacity of thinking suarez and carroll could be lol

The statement said they are going to provide reasons for the verdict "in due course"

This isn't very lol tbh.

I don't think Suarez' defense could've been "cultural differences" tbh. He's playing in England.

"It doesn't leave much wriggle room on Terry, anyway."

This warms my heart tbh

I'm not loling but he's a deeply unpleasant character and i'm not losing any sleep over this

i'm telling you, terry's denial will be a major factor in nothing happening there

suarez admitted to using 'negro' iirc? wasn't that common knowledge?

So clue me in, can Suarez now face criminal prosecution too?

very unlikely that evra pushes for that, am not sure if anyone else can do so

Yes xp, but if he was speaking Spanish then it'd be different. I don't know what language he was speaking.

He could theoretically be prosecuted, but the verdict reads quite weakly so I wouldn't expect that to be a realistic outcome.

It's not Evra's call, it's for the police & CPS. But they need a complaint first and so far as I am aware there hasn't been one (unlike Terry)

john terry was speaking english, i'm not sure that's relevant tbph IK

oh that's a beaut

Kean must stay.

Think it was supposed to have been 'negrito', maybe he argued that the diminutive form was especially affectionate/harmless? At least in an S. American context.

see yon wee black cunt

Relevant insofar as it'd have a different meaning in Spanish, is what I mean. I'm sure racist abuse in Spanish could equally be prosecuted.

i dunno, it is p lol that liverpool bought a dude like suarez, as if shit like this wasn't going to happen.

cya all post-downtime, let's hope shearer is in by then.

Suarez on twitter:

"Today is a very difficult and painful day for both me and my family. Thanks for all the support, I'll keep working!"

kennethdalglish Kenneth Dalglish
Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD

That club statement isn't hanging back.