What are you reading while ilx is stuck in a quicksand?

how was the marriage plot m white?

I'm starting Underworld for the third time and will start Candice Millard's account of the Garfield assassination.

i think m. dies affects me more consistently than does molloy, tho' this is in large part because of the streamlining of the anti-narrative aspects. molloy might be funnier, though. ("the turdy madonna? he said, as if he knew turdy like the back of his hand, and there was no madonna in the length and breadth of it" - this line has been making me laugh about twice a week for the past month)

probably going to finish malone dies today. where i currently am is as far as i've ever got with the trilogy hurrah. (though i kind of wonder when the characterization of them as 'the trilogy' set in. and whether it works, to be honest.)

i am not m. white but i read the marriage plot - wasn't crazy about the idea of the novel (kids graduate from college, learn about life) and the main female character was a lot less interesting than the two dudes but i was surprisingly emotionally affected by it.

just finished marriage plot too, and i didn't like it that much overall--there is some compelling stuff mixed in w/a lot of not compelling stuff--but for some reason, once my book club started bashing it, i started to feel a bit defensive toward it. still, overall don't think the compelling stuff made the rest of the book worth it, tho.

haven't read any other eugenidies but consensus seemed to be that it wasn't as good as his other stuff

def. wasn't as good as middlesex.

a lot of it felt v miscalculated, to me; maybe it is just me but i feel like a contemporary audience doesn't need inventive metaphors for what depression ~feels like~ & they somehow made it into this otherly almost fantastical state. i also liked some of it. it was funny reading somewhere, poss here, that the blowjob scene was like ~lauded~, popularly, because reading it it obv stands out as like a poignant section of the novel, although i had problems with that bit too.

what else did your book club think, rayuela?

how was the marriage plot m white?

I liked it. I liked the end and the structure a lot and it was fun reliving the 80's.

Rayuela: I would rep for runaway as being munro's 2nd best collection

alice munro: which is the best collection to introduce people to her?

The selected stories published in the late nineties is exemplary. Hateship... boasts the greatest number of superb, memorable short stories. Among the early volumes The Moons of Jupiter is also consistent.

'live of girls and women' is a good intro to munro & might work better as a book club selection

i don't know what i'm reading. nietzsche. probably middlemarch. i'm wondering how much middlemarch i can read before spring semester starts; maybe i'll read 1q84 if i get done with the eliot before then.

About 70 pages into The Trial by Kafka and... it's good, it is just a bit of a slog. Or maybe I'm just not in the mood.

just finished

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p good if a touch overlong

has anyone read any of john jeremiah sullivan's essays? v interested after reading a james wood review.

i started "pulphead" last night and the first piece in there, about attending a christian rock festival, is so great. hope the rest of book lives up to it: http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/200401/rock-music-jesus.

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i'm getting near the end of it now, that first essay is still the highlight but there's other great stuff in there too - the long piece about the 19th century naturalist was esp. good. sometimes his style gets in the way a little bit but overall the book's worth reading.

awesome. thanks n/a.

schlump -- re: what my book club thought, there were complaints that it didn't map onto any sort of victorian literature and that madeline was an undignified heroine b/c she hooked up (!). anyway, i don't know much about victorian lit but thought that was a silly complaint.

thanks all for the alice munro suggestions!

I've recently read

To Engineer is Human, Henry Petroski. A collection of essays that make the same point repeatedly: engineers study engineering mistakes and catastrophes because they teach them more than the successes. Got it, Hank!

Field Notes From a Catastrophe, Elizabeth Kolbert. A book about global warming. She visits scientists and encapsulates their findings in clear language even average lay people can understand, explaining why we are thoroughly screwed.

The First Salute, Barbara Tuchman. American Revolutionary War history with a lot of side excursions to Europe and the West Indies, so as to make the global situation plainer, allowing American readers to understand that we didn't win the war, so much as the British lost to the French because of the neutrality of the Dutch.

i've tried picking up maybe 6 -- 8 books since i finished book of night women, including some supposedly great reads, but so far, they're all paling in comparison.

"The Magicians" by Lev Grossman, which is super fun so far

btw belated thx for the book club digest rayuela, i needed the vicarious inclusion, & think "what do you think of madeleine as heroine" is one of the more interesting threads to unravel re: the book (that & the ~describing depression~ one, for me)

i read a lot slower than you guys but i'm reading/still reading eileen myles' inferno & really loving it, as a bildungsroman & as something as just audible & loose as her poems, as a voice, as a memory. it is about new york in the '80s in a very textural, routine-y way, it's fun to read.

Finished: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.

Started: Fernando Pessoa - The Book of Disquiet

finished malone dies and the stephen king, now reading murakami and smth called 'blood of elves'

i liked the witcher books quite a bit but i dont think i can partic defend them

it made me really happy that you were reading beckett just btw

no problem schlump...i did think madeline was a flatly written character, but that this had nothing to do with her sexuality. maybe this is because she was written to be so normal, and eugenidies can't write compelling, normal characters? just speculating. on the other hand, the depression parts were my favorite, though, and i thought he nicely captured the way in which people who have no experience with depression tend to view/approach depression.

alice munro has pulled ahead of gary shteyngart in the book club vote. anyone here read 'super sad true love story'?

in the middle of reading
-why we write: the politics and practice of writing for social change and
-dark matter: a century of speculative fiction from the african diaspora

iirc there were a # of ppl on real ilx that quite liked 'super sad' but i think its his worst novel, well-written but charmless.

yea super sad is not v good i read it

I am about halfway through The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, Muriel Spark, and I'm enjoying it very much. Her use of the omniscient voice is incredibly deft and artful. It gives the impression of a particularly keen-eyed and scrupulous intelligence that understands everything and thererfore has no need of opinions.

i liked SSTLS a lot personally

muriel spark is great

I endured a violent Spark addiction two Christmases ago -- I read four of her novels at one go. She's great.

the marriage plot does not seem like a book that should have been written by a grown-ass man

heh. are you reading it now?

just finished ursula k leguin's lathe of heaven. strongly reminded of PKD as I read -- thought the dispossessed & left hand of darkness were fantastic -- this one, not so much.

Currently reading Disturbing the Peace by Vaclav Havel.

Man, I'm disappointed that Underworld, despite three or four splendid passages, is a waste of time.

alice munro has pulled ahead of gary shteyngart in the book club vote. anyone here read 'super sad true love story'?

haven't yet read it, but do have it. so i'd vote for this for a book-club!

It's pretty bad

bummer. it looked kind of funny, maybe intentionally?

i've heard it compared to egan's a visit from the goon squad, which i liked. for those who've read both, is it an accurate comparison?

ehh, not sure. both def have some brilliant passages & maybe notably the best stuff was excerpted before both were published imo

goon squad > sstls imo, though im not the biggest goon squad fan.

im actually reading 'the keep' now. feel like its giving some of the same quibbles as good squad but ima stick w/ it

Yup, didn't really like Goon Squad either but i'd take it over SSTLS. I presume some of the comparisons are because both of them are set in the near future

typing goon 3x there, it was a certainty id fuck 1 up

i'm reading egan's emerald city right now, and liking it much more than the keep. only 2 stories in though.

"In the Beginning was the Command Line"

finished Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson. more journalistic than analytic biography which translates into a quick breezy read and a handy summation of the personal computer revolution since the 70s. towards the end it does read too much like a business magazine article. Jobs is a monumental asshole, as everyone knows, though the extent and dimensions of his genius are a matter of personal perception. I won't stop buying Apple gadgets. A review in NYRB was OTM, concluding that Isaacson proved you can reveal a subject's flaws while still writing a hagiography. But the romance/glorification of Jobs isn't so obnoxious that you can't read the book. I liked it.

when I refer to Jobs as an asshole, that means I wouldn't want to have worked for him and don't think much of the way he treated his children. totally respect & admire his accomplishments. first computer I bought was a Mac II in 1986.

The Thelonious Monk biography by Robin D.G. Kelly is good, but for the first time in years, I'm more drawn to fiction, so I need to pick up something else to read, too. I started Jonathan Franzen's Freedom, but despite all the hype/praise, I'm having trouble into it.

Is Vikram Chandra's Sacred Games any good? Looks interesting, but it's also about 1k pages long, so could be a slog.

Disposed of Alec Waugh. I am now starting Pale Fire. It may be too clever for me, like those little wooden puzzles where a sphere is constructed out of eight or so angular pieces you must fit together, but it's too soon to say.

just finished stone arabia, and by extension all three spiotta novels in about a month and a half.

find something that works and stick with it, right?