Fair enough.
― Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 17 December 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
he sees cinema from inside a certain box and falls for heavily promoted middlebrow pap.
He engages with the mass public that exists almost wholly untouched by most of what you would regard as "serious" cinema (talk about existing inside a box). While the more mass you get, arguably, the more you merely reflect culture, Roger Ebert has probably had a greater influence on the world, or at least America, than Jean-Luc Godard or any number of equivalents. The less "middlebrow" he gets, the more of a receptive audience he loses. Doesn't mean you or I have to like him or find him useful (and honestly everything is utility), but that doesn't mean he isn't useful to the culture at large. He occupies the same space as Lady Gaga, say.
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Saturday, 17 December 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see why people are getting butthurt over Ebert's Godard pan: IIRC he hasn't liked a new Godard film since Weekend, and he's also gone all revisionist re:the 60s color films.
― Tumblr Whites Off Earth Now!! (Sandbox Grisso-McCain), Saturday, 17 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
wait does jsho have taste in movies?
― mookieproof, Friday, December 16, 2011 9:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
i have the best taste in everything come on
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Saturday, 17 December 2011 07:42 (twelve years ago) link
And another alias uncovered.
telling ppl they must check out Shame is not useful to any culture or your Aunt Millie.
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
it's a verb, kev
― Dr Morbius, Friday, December 16, 2011 12:15 PM (Yesterday)
ha i was just joshing fwiw
― k3vin k., Saturday, 17 December 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
just jhoshing
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Saturday, 17 December 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
Rip into Roger Ebert
― wow gould (step hen faps), Saturday, 17 December 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
i saw tinker tailor soldier spy last night and came home and lolled at the review where he said he didn't understand it
― cad, Saturday, 17 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
dude, I loved the '79 miniseries, and I really didn't understand the film either. Most of that was due to the short-shrifting of character, as I didn't care to care about the plot.
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
really? i mean i guess it moved pretty fast in its own way but i did not find anything about it hard to follow
― cad, Saturday, 17 December 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
plot is such a middlebrow conceit
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Art should always be an exact transcription of reality, without the horrific artifice that is introduced by editing, condensation of time, or compression of meaning. amirite?
― Aimless, Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
is that a metaphor because ugh
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
Art transcribed directly from reality: http://www.wiredforbooks.org/images/ArtGarfunkel.jpg
― Aimless, Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
I liked his choice of presenters for the Ebert Presents show.
Ignatiy's Top 10
― gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
and Christy Lemire as the Philistine
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
It's a good match!
― gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Did The Three Musketeers even open here? I saw a bunch of posters for it in Buenos Aires.
― jaymc, Saturday, 17 December 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
It did, but Summit didn't promote it very much. Milla was pissed.
― gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
the whole time?
gotta numb the shame somehow i guess
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 17 December 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
His reviews of Lost Highway and Blue Velvet are unacceptable, but he mostly means well.
yeah, god forbid someone challenge the critical party line on st. lynch. this is like when ppl pretend that the only important thing about pauline kael is that she 'didn't get' kubrick.
― j.d. again, Saturday, 17 December 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
best thing about being middlebrow is being allowed to disregard any & all of lynch, tbph
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 17 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
I need to rewatch my TTSS dvd before I see the movie (whose premiere I saw disappointing stage actor Sam Waterston duck out of, one block away from where I saw David Lynch, as it happens). I'll probably never actually see the movie in the theatre, though.
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know that you'll miss much vs screening at home, tbh
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
"Serious" questions:1. Is Shame the most heterosexual movie of the year?2. Is it socially acceptable (pick your milieu) for homosexuals to express disgust at expressions of heterosexuality? Should it be?
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
I don't usually get much out of Anthony Lane, but I loved his writing about TTSS. A British thing, probably.
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
1. Is Shame the most heterosexual movie of the year?
No -- Beginners is.
2. Is it socially acceptable (pick your milieu) for homosexuals to express disgust at expressions of heterosexuality? Should it be?
It has been for three thousand years but you people never learn.
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol isnt shame supposed to be disgusting tho
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 18 December 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
yes, esp when MF lets a man kiss him before a BJ
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 18 December 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
omg the horror
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 18 December 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
It has been for three thousand years but you people never learn
LOL
A lot of things were acceptable 3000 years ago. Didn't Plato write about this Sandusky fellow?
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Sunday, 18 December 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
he wrote about OWS
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 18 December 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
dude, I loved the '79 miniseries, and I really didn't understand the film either.
I had to watch it twice to fully grasp the competing interests/motivations/schemes, which I actually found refreshing.
― Simon H., Sunday, 18 December 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
complex requiring effort to follow no-exposition style plotted movies are like drugs to me
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 18 December 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
like it didnt matter that it was basically presented in shopping list form
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 18 December 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
it was v beautiful too!
and gary oldman fucking ran shit
it looked fantastic, y
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Sunday, 18 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link