you'd have to see an american city seriously threatened by rising waters
too bad New Orleans wasn't really an American city. never calvinist enough for that.
― Aimless, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
otoh if that happened, we'd be in a place where global crop yields would be haywire.
this is pretty much guaranteed to happen. of course, the right wing denialists will insist on some other unscientific explanation (END TIMES! probably lol)
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
i think in that case it will turn into something like the memory of the civil rights movement -- conservatives will completely forget they were on the wrong side at the time. liberals will turn out to be the "real anti-conservationists" or something, by 2040
― slandblox goole, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Libertards, conservaturds, they're all sheep!
― billy goat, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
don't you mean to say "sheeple"?
― Aimless, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
btw as much as i was trying to troll upthread i promise i do not agree w/ c.k. dexter holland
― max max max max, Friday, 16 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
wow. no payroll tax agreement unless we agree to destroy our future
Regarding that legislation, Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell emails me with the following statement: “The Leader will not support any bill without the Keystone XL language as part of the agreement.”
it boggles the mind
― Z S, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
a REPUBLICAN is refusing to lower taxes for people, that's crazy enoughunless we address our oil addiction by exploiting disgusting, last resort veins. fuck.
― Z S, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
the weird thing that I don't get is that, paradoxically, if that amendment is approved it will essentially kill the project altogether - all the agencies involved have said they can't approve it in so short a timeframe, which means they will just reject it outright.
Boehner & McConnell must be aware of this, which would seem to indicate this is just a deeply cynical PR maneuver (ie "you can't make it look like we're against tax cuts unless we get to make it look like you are destroying jobs")
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I do get it, really
that being the case I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Obama retracts his veto threat and lets the bill go through as soon as he can receive guarantees that the pipeline project will be killed anyway
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Boehner & McConnell must be aware of this, which would seem to indicate this is just a deeply cynical PR maneuver
HAI DERE
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
my mom, who voted for palin (decidedly not for mccain) in 08, just overheard me say i wasn't gonna vote for O in '12. response: GOOD! IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU WOKE UP!
― HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
my condolences
― Aimless, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
the ongoing agony of being multifacted in a binary world
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3645&utm_campaign=CBPPTwitter
Dem Ron Wyden teams up with Paul Ryan for Medicare plan. Why????
― Another Suburbanite, Friday, 16 December 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Wyden really likes to cut bipartisan deals. It is part of his modus operandi as a senator. Wyden also has built his career on good constituent service for the aged, so I expect that his staff's analysis of the proposal's effects differed from that provided in the linked article.
― Aimless, Friday, 16 December 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
If you want a single issue to turn you against Obama, I don't know why you would pick the one that affects a small handful of individuals who in all likelihood are "combatants,"
sorry, i got off the Obama boat the second he started to seriously talk about "reforming" Social Security. everything since then has been noise, and i will only vote for Obama again in the increasingly unlikely scenario of Gingrich winning the GOP nomination (in which case it would really be a vote AGAINST Gingrich and yes if Romney or [God forbid} Ron Paul win i'm not voting for Obama again).
― deine Mutter lutscht Schwänze in der Hölle (Eisbaer), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, i got off the Obama boat the second he started to seriously talk about "reforming" Social Security.
lol don't even remember this. SS has been basically untouched in his presidency, this seems like weird thing to get het up about.
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
it was during the debt ceiling fiasco this summer.
― deine Mutter lutscht Schwänze in der Hölle (Eisbaer), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
and it isn't so weird a thing to get het up about if (like me) you see fighting for SS (and Medicare and Medicaid) to be quintessentially progressive issues.
― deine Mutter lutscht Schwänze in der Hölle (Eisbaer), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
well I think both programs are worth fighting for but a) neither party wants to fuck with either, and to-date neither has been able to and b) actual legislation/policy that Obama has implemented have been much worse
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
(in which case it would really be a vote AGAINST Gingrich
i guess the only reason why this seems unusual - voting as voting against, isn't there a lincoln quote about that? - is that it did kinda seem like you could be voting for the right guy last time
― Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
Obama is def preferable to McCain come on now
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
McCain is senile AND bonkers
what would be different?
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
we would MAYBE be at war with russia tbf
― Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
would've bombed Iran by now
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
Libya would have been an even bigger clusterfuck
don't ask/don't tell still in place
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
social security/medicare/medicaid totally gutted
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
7-3 majority of conservative assholes on the supreme court
no stimulus, no ARRA funding = even higher unemployment
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
probably would've fucked up the handling of the BP oil spill in the gulf somehow
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
EPA abolished
Bush tax cuts made permanent
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
Policy driven by intermittent rage.
― Aimless, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
war in Iraq still going on, probably even heavier presence in Afghanistan
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
Bin Laden still alive/Al Qaeda still functional
People everywhere prefacing everything they say with, "My friend..."
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
Sarah Palin in national office
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
osama bin laden somehow a member of GOP administration
― Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
We would never have really gotten to know Herman Cain.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
planes do a 180 after take off & before landing, fly upside down in sky, you spend the whole flight only held in your seat by the seatbelt, can't go to bathroom, no peanuts &c
― Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
haha, questions not to ask liberals Part 567
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_V5SReiHuxbs/THLBcj7hmhI/AAAAAAAADgc/bSUQupA5MeI/s1600/4+fanta.jpg
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
eh, don't know about that one. it's very difficult to abolish a federal agency, despite the easy way that politicians bring it up on the campaign trail. even if you're johnny "mc-no-no" McCain. MCCAIN!
― Z S, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
The sight of Ricardo reminds me: the performers who would be invited to a McCain white house would be of a different calibur.
― Aimless, Saturday, 17 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
dead?
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Or as near as can be.
― Aimless, Saturday, 17 December 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link