itt liverpool not winning things; sandbox i love football

If their one man is fit.

can see the Arsenal and Chelsea ties going either way

Agreed that the Arse can beat Milan

Lyon - Apoel
Napoli - Chelsea
AC Milan - Arsenal
Basel - Bayern Munich
CSKA Moscow - Real Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen - Barcelona
Zenit St Petersburg - Benfica
Marseille - Inter Milan

Lyon, Napoli, Arsenal, Munich, Madrid, Barcelona, Zenit, Marseille I'd hope for (while remaining realistic, I'd love for Real and Barca to go out, but so not gonna happen)

wait so who is united playing?

Sporting Pécs iirc

Anorthosis Famagusta

Bendtner going down the Jermaine Pennant career route.

Bendtner is such a Stoke player, can see it already.

castlebar town fc

He'll be playing with a tag on soon enough.

Porto - ManC !

Ajax - ManU !

Hopefully both fall at the first hurdle then

Pretty great draws there!

hoping for Stoke - PSV tbh

I'm assuming Lee Cattermole waited for the car to go past him and then charged in two-footed from behind. And then stamped on it.

United can just pretend its the CL now.

stoke - valencia! beautiful

merde. Stoke - Valencia

Some really great games here though!

psv should be safe as long as they don't get udinese though

Yeah you're probably right. Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho

Stoke should request playing at Tuesday night tbf

Reckon Stoke will beat Valencia actually.

Ajax - ManU !

Woo! Love this competition so much.

they won't have encountered anything quite like Crouchy etc.

and yeah, great draw for Utd

Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho
Wouldn't like to get Trabzonspor tho

:-(

ha

They did win and draw against Inter in the CL group, but I do have to admit I don't know how strong they really are. I'm not pessimistic about though. If you want to win it you should be able to beat everyone etc :)

Ah, if PSV and Stoke win they meet in the next round

wait so who is united playing?

Heh, I was genuinely wondering this as I scrolled down and saw the likes of Apoel being allocated, quite wrongly, to mid-ranking clubs.

Europa League is great, obv, other than the new British deadwood entering at this stage. But Utd fielding the kids against Ajax, and still winning, is going to be awful.

"Every young, black player who appears at Santos is called Pelé, but people need to know how to differentiate that, because Pelé was a myth. There has not been anyone similar to Pelé nor will there be one. Another Pelé will not be born," Robinho told Globoesporte. "Each player needs to make their own history. Neymar is already making his very well."

that only applies to black Pelés tho, surely?

that rough pélé will have slouched towards lancashire to be born

ya obv

oh man english clubs got hit hard. milan! napoli! valencia!

zlatan has already scored 2 against us. i still think we have like a 75% chance but that was the hardest draw out of the hat.

valencia should beat stoke but its stoke, so quality on paper means nothing.

utd will get punked by ajax because playing the kids and owen is stupid.

cavani v. david lolz will be a horror show.

porto are really unfortunate. i can see city taking this v. seriously.

Evra was clearly annoyed by something and it was also reported that when he was shown a yellow card later in the match, he allegedly said to Marriner: "You're only booking me because I'm black."

C'mon son

"You're only booking me because I'm black and you're blind."

... esprit d'escalier, Patrice

Kieron Dyer requires a foot operation and is ruled out for the season, having played a grand total of 7 minutes for QPR. Even King and Woodgate have been getting a regular run-out this year.

that's gotta be it for kieron in the epl

i dunno track record suggests some more clubs will still try and go for him because they are stupid

He's 32 now, so I doubt that

I wonder how wealthy he is. The thought that's he's probably squandered the lot - can't decide if that makes me feel better or worse.

Bad language at the match, well I never:

Took my son to Underhill last night to watch the FA Youth Cup game against Derby County.

Went to the tea-bar under the main-stand at half-time and a few of the younger first team squad players were in front of us in the queue. My initial thought was that it was a good thing they'd come to support the youngsters, but this was quickly soured by what happened next...

Craig Eastmond was being asked by another player to get him a hot chocolate - his reply loudly - in front of my six-year-old and at least five other youngsters in the vicinity:

"F**k off man, I'll f**k you up, I'll kill you, get your own" - whilst the threat is obviously some kind of new tongue in cheek way young lads like Eastmond like to speak with each other, the language was a disgrace and he just shrugged when I said mind your language.

Shortly before we'd got to the front of the queue Frimpong shouted the following to Pat Rice who was walking past "Hey Pat, hey Pat, shouldn't you be in bed old man!" - I'm not offended by this (neither was Pat who smirked back) BUT is this indicative of a real lack of respect and awareness? The Eastmond case definitely is in my opinion. Frimpong more an issue of discipline which is worrying - I have a feeling from recent seasons (and things I have seen) that this attitude is rife at the club. I can't bring myself to warm to them and support them because of this.

At the barnet game it was jut pure banta between me and Pat but some Busy Guy just decided to make a deal out of it told pat he laughed :)

LOL uptight twat pwned by Frimpers

http://www.therichest.org/celebnetworth/athletes/footballer/kieron-dyer-net-worth/

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Bayern-Koln, Ribery sent off, quite ridiculously, after 30 mins
1-Ribery falls theatrically in the box
2-Koln defender angrily gestures for him to get up
3-Ribery aims a weak ass punch at defenders back(doesn't connect)
4-Goes forehead-to-forehead with defender
5-Ref books both players
6-As they are walking away after receiving their respective yellow cards, Ribery grabs defender by the throat in front of the referee
7-Ribery sent off!

So stupid!

It was 0-0 at the time and Koln were playing an ultra negative 3 CBs with 2 wing-backs pushing up against Robben/Ribery, leaving Podolski v isolated up front. After the sending off they didn't change and still continued to sit back looking for the draw. 10 man Bayern calmy passed the ball around, dominated possession, and carved them open multiple times in the 2nd half. Ran out easy 3-0 winners (at 2-0 Koln took off Podolski and moved one of the CBs to CF instead!)

Cowardly performance from Koln. I don't like Podolski, but he's right, he is too good for them.

Haha, sounds great. I hate that though, the little team getting the upper hand and yet still end up pulverised.

ppl interested in futbol books might enjoy this, put out by a friend and featuring the writings of several other friends and acquaintances:

http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2011/12/16/the-very-best-of-pitch-invasion/