I like the idea of I Love Books but whenever I feel the need to start a literature thread, I'm pretty sure I'd do so here. The last Pynchon thread on ILE got way more responses than the equivalent ILB thread. That said, I like the idea of ILB and I'm glad it's there.
(xpost - ILB ended up in like five newspapers!)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link
hahaha remember when I started a mini feud between ILB & NB last year? no blood spilled. I can be such a dick sometimes.
what newspapers was ILB mentioned in? UK I presume.
― mark coleman (lovebug ), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
no-one's "irreplaceable".
xpost
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Better than what ILM/E have become even in the past 6 months, but still pretty bland.
― Geza T iz tha Rainy G. Toronado (The GZeus), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
a ton of euro papers. cuzza the one thread that mikey started. it was briefly a webenomemon.
― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Alisa, post on TITTWIS. it is open to all posters and all topics.
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link
The Campbell - MacDonald feud, including the Massacre of GlencoeThe Capone - Moran feud, including the St. Valentine's Day massacreThe Clanton/McLaury - Earp feudThe Donnelly - Lucan community feudThe Gunn - Keith feudThe Hatfield - McCoy feudThe Lancaster - York feudThe Percy - Neville feudThe Talbot - Berkeley feudNjál's saga, an Icelandic account of a Celtic-Nordic blood feudThe Pleasant Valley War
― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 15 February 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
S... I'm a bit late here, but the problem with this statement is that it's an impossible ask.
If you can think of an answer that isn't qualified with an if, then we might be getting somewhere.
p.s. fuk u! lolz HI DERE!
― KeefW (KeefW), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― KeefW (KeefW), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
What? Tell me more!
― Tom D. (Dada), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link
maybe so. but then so is saying: "hey, stop zinging/bullying/being nasty to each other."
my point is simple - it's far more useful to say, a la mark seven billion posts ago: "look, people, how about we just ignore posts that irritate us" than it is to say: "right dudes, no more irritating posts." i mean, irritation is in the, er, brain of the ILX0r. one man's troll is another man's nabisco. or something.
fill in the blanks: it's an i----n-t m-ss--e boa-d. lighte- up, pe-ple.
― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Wow, for the first time ever, I'm proud of my ancestors!
― Tom D. (Dada), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tom D. (Dada), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tom D. (Dada), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― kv_nol (kv_nol), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
Mmnot as I remember it... CJ sounds about right, but not entirely sure.
― Ole Martin Halck (OleM), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― unfished business (Scourage), Friday, 16 February 2007 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― McCain's-sponsored epaulettes (stet), Friday, 16 February 2007 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Dearest admins, who decides what it is zinging, what is bullying, and what is just making a point to someone who then takes it personally?
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I know this! It's the admins!
― KeefW (KeefW), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link
teh_kit, if you can't be meta on a meta-board, when can you be meta?
(haha, that looks like a theaudience album track title)
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
luv ailsa_xx
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm quite happy with stet pointing out that admins discuss things off board. However in that same post he also says:
1) The only workable rules (ie that won't result in endless legal-type bickering and "but I didn't break the rule!" whining) will be really amorphous and pretty self-explanatory: Don't a be dick. Flickr's one's good too: "Don't be creepy. You know, that guy. Don't be him."
and the need for a new (albeit possibly temporary) rule i.e. take shit to the meta board or we'll take it there for you runs contrary to the idea that self-policing is the only workable rule.
I'm basically OK with this meta-board in principle, but not entirely clear what the principle is.
Since this is a meta-board, I'm going to do a wee bit of self-explanation. I have had a bit of a run-in recently with a poster who is taking it WAY more personally than it was meant. It's certainly not personal to any one poster, more a disagreement with a principle of people getting to police their own bits of the board (and evidence suggests I'm not the only one). I've tried to illustrate the non-personal-ness of my argument by politely explaining to that person that I do not actually have a problem with them personally. Part of me is a bit worried that others don't see it that way - I guess it depends what bits of ILX people notice.
I'm giving up on that one issue now anyway. It's too small a part of my overall ILX experience to let it bother me that much. I'm all for live and let live. I contribute non-snarkily to lots of the board - TV, films, music, football, general day-to-day shit. I'm trying really hard not to be an overall nuisance. I hope I'm succeeding. I really like this board and a lot of the people therein. I just want it to work.
Peace out.
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
So instead of your beef getting pushed to one side on the WC thread, and then popping its head up in Noise and various other places, could instead be hashed out here. It lets things that need to come to head, er, come to one, without trashing threads. It lets people call someone out for something cuntish, and lets other people give their opinion without it being smeared across 17 threads.
Basically, I guess you could see it as somewhere for self-policing to happen without getting in the way.
― stet (stet), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I said, I like it in principle. I hate that shitloads of people have piled in on a small issue I had with the way people were being treated by Kate and the way she felt she had control over a part of ILX and made it some big AILSA V KATE FITE OH NOES incident when that was never my intention and then it kept spiralling and spinning off into every thread and got brought up here when I was at work and I went off on one because I'm sick fed up of people misunderstanding what I'm on about and it's not even just me that's doing it anyway, there's Kate-directed snark all over the board and at least I was trying to vocalise exactly what my beef was, which was with ONE FUCKING THREAD. I'm backing well the fuck away from the whole fiasco now. People are making this something it's not, and I hate it and it's actually really fucking bothering me. I made some crappy jokes about Kate killfilling me for a cheap self-deprecating roffle and now I've gone back to posting pictures of old towns and talking about washing machines.
Perhaps it got lost upthread when Stevem completely misunderstood everything I said and suggested I go and start a rival watercooler thread and I said "Because I shouldn't need to. There's one there already. And I'm not going to make it a taking sides ailsa vs kate, which I'm pretty sure she would if people deserted "her" thread for "mine". I don't need it or care that much, I just don't like being told what I can and can't post on ILE by someone who's not a moderator."
Can I just make it REALLY REALLY CLEAR I'm not going to react to Kate being Kate by being Kate too.
However, I am getting terrible meta about it. Thank God for this board!
I think the point I am trying to make is that I've been inadvertently caught up the whole meta-thing that led to this, so if I want to ask questions about it, I'm trying to point out that I've no real self-interest, I'm just asking general questions on behalf of an enquiring mind, not someone who intends being a flaming nuisance to anyone in particular on the board.
(I'm off to have some real life now. It'll be good for me)
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― unfished business (Scourage), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link