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she is breathtakingly hot

holy

HELOOOOOOOO NURSE

also she is not a cup of tea type of gal she is a shot of rotgut type of gal imo

― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:06 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

^^^actual lols

my 23 yr old self just spurted all over the county of limerick

This thread and others like it are just perpetual Sociological Images 101 in terms of the *presentation* of female sexual attractiveness vs male sexual attractiveness.

Genuinely not criticising any individuals on this thread, but just find it really strange and perplexing. Can anyone find me the equivalent of heartthrob dudes, straddling bicycles in their skivvies? I mean, seriously, not that "man pin-ups" calendar thing. Even heartthrobs I don't find attractive, but maybe people like Mark Ruffalo or Ryan Gosling that the ladies of ILX find attractive? I am just wondering what the equivalent is, and how they are represented.

Stating again for the record, I'm not trolling and apologies in advance if I offend any men with this line of questioning, I am just interested in this. The presentation of heartthrob men in their underwear. What's it look like?

freddie ljungberg ad that my gf uses as a bookmark!

http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/hasselhoff-puppies.jpg

That must make quite an indentation on the page (xp)

Well, share! x-post

The closest I can think of is...

I have an academic friend who every year gets shipped in a "men of the French Rugby team" calendar which portrays sportsmen in a very "beautiful boys" kind of way, strategically naked, romping with horses and sports equipment - but it is photographed in a very "homoerotic" gaze - i.e. we have endless arguments about whether it's designed for women or gay men.

When I get out of this meeting I'll try and find some photos she's posted of it.

Great example, horseshoe!

looking up on phone is unwieldy, looking up on work pc isn't gonna hapoen, think it was ysl campaign tho

Calvin Klein, maybe?

http://m.blog.hu/ou/ourfashion/image/bianka/Liz8_calvinkle.jpg

I am not familiar with these people, is this the right man?

That's him. You said on another thread something about some photograph of some SEXY HUNK that it was a male idea of what an attractive man was and I thought, no, that's like 1000% wrong!

Actually he appears to have done 40,000 pants ads so what would I know?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vJbEFgWRC5M/S9nyY364rgI/AAAAAAAAA8E/2YOoIhTC4FI/s1600/becks.jpg

I'm still not feeling the smash, TBH, but it's interesting imagery.

Damn. Anyway, meeting!

the one i'm talking bout he's sitting thighs akimbo in boxers, ie v much a 'lads mag' for girls- or, as you say, maybe other guys

The underwear or the sportsmen?

Genuinely not criticising any individuals on this thread, but just find it really strange and perplexing. Can anyone find me the equivalent of heartthrob dudes, straddling bicycles in their skivvies?
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, December 16, 2011 5:02 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

You posted a picture of a man with his legs spread, biting his shirt as he reveals his abdomen.

Indeed, an androgynous boy/man but still a man

Think Deems is on to something - is this visual vocabulary derived from "lads mag" poses (legs akimbo in knickers)? Is there a different vocabulary for "what" "women" "want" or is it just the same thing transposed?

Revealing the abdomen is definitely a ~thing~ - not just for me, but loads of women...

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2388946/Thom+Yorke+ombligooo.jpg

^^^^^^total WS and also used as the splash image for lots of female oriented fan sites so this is not just a *me* thing, don't know if it's "look at my sixpack I am fit" or if it's "I am revealing my vulnerable areas"

The biting the shirt thing also appears to be a ~thing~ - it's not just Ryan Gosling (though, W not S) thing, but it's a repeated thing in the vocabulary of presentation of objects of female desire, but I think that's a universal thing, because oral pleasure is definitely a thing for all genders - whether it's ladies licking ice cream or men chewing at their clothing with desire.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Kozz3X37AII/TGWiIN-0wWI/AAAAAAAABSs/lZ0_IMOrV08/s1600/1139583810_DAlessiaRyanGosling.jpg

I don't think that Andrej Peljic is a good example for anything because he's one of those people whose entire career is based on shaking up or transposing or dismantling the visual vocabulary of gender and Style but here he is with very female styled presenation, yet that "here is my abdomen" of male sexual presentation. Which I find fascinating.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/278071/ANDREJ-PEJIC-DOSSIER.jpg

I like people just kind of dressed in regular clothes best

How about biting regular clothes?

FT, there is such a thing as over-thinking things.

Thom Yorke is a persistent abdomen exposer. It's really quite endearing.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/12936693/Thom+Yorke+yhellothar.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/28433819/Thom+Yorke++Sunglasses.jpg

There's more recent ones, too, but I can't be arsed to dig through 40,000 fan sites to find them right now.

Do wonder how much of Ryan Gosling's appeal is down to *his* persistent abdomen exposing. Watching fan dialogue about him, it's not even the abdomen but those ~lines~ that extend from hip to groin. Which seem to drive many women (OK, Jezebel commenters and ladies in my tweetstream) into a froth of sexual excitation.

FT, there is such a thing as over-thinking things.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (4 minutes ago)

Um, have you taken a look at where you ~are~? This is ILX. We have 400 post threads about whether to put 1 or 2 spaces after a fullstop. And you think questioning the pervasive and all-surrounding depictions of one of human beings' most fundamental activities is *overthinking*?

RMDE!

It's not but I guess this thread has a standing history of being mostly pictures and people often get up in arms when it gets too wordy. More pics, less talk was the sort of arrangement we had previously. There are tons of other threads where this sort of thing can and should be discussed.

ps - Gosling is overrated in the attractiveness dept imo. I just don't really get the appeal.

^^ otm xp

*perplexed face*

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/392283/Thom+Yorke.jpg

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyv8d3FXtA1qa1iiqo1_500.jpg

anyway. where were we.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dDPWwJABtuk/TtxnZNPljWI/AAAAAAAANhU/Gw0mXSNja5s/s1600/Denise%2BMilani%2B01.jpg

^^^^^ would not smash. He looks bizarre, and totally unlike himself. That photo has always freaked me out.

(sorry, too much talking again)

HAHAHAHAHAH x-post

lol

TY does look really weird there. It's over photoshopped, right?

FT I wasn't trying to be mean or bitchy before. I just wanted you to know why ppl might be giving you a hard time. A little talk is fine but the big discussions stuff is generally better elsewhere, I think?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cmi-niche/assets/pictures/4136/content_Michael-Pitt.jpg?1289857992

I think he's one of those people who looks better in action than still pics but I love Michael Pitt even tho in most real life pics he looks pretty gross and sort of like he smells. He's pretty beautiful imo.

ahhh huge sorry

He looks weird because they've photoshopped out all the things that make him look distinctive - his freckles, his ptosis, his sticky out ears, his lizard cheekbones. I think he looks so much better like this (apart from the bad hair)

http://www.radiox.ru/pics/r/tomx/ty063.jpg

But then again, I think that *this* woman is so beautiful and amazing looking and sexy *because* of her freckles, and ppl were being nasty about them upthread (makes me feel self conscious TBH)

http://guy.com/a/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Cintia-Dicker-1.jpg

I have no idea how that Michael Pitt dude is, but he is ~pretty~ - then again, I don't have a problem with dudes looking like they smell, as we all know.

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Michael_Pitt-3.jpg

That woman's freckles are amazing.

The first thing I remember seeing Pitt in was Hedwig and the Angry Inch but he's been in a bunch of movies and is one of the main people on Boardwalk Empire.

I love Michael Pitt even tho in most real life pics he looks pretty gross and sort of like he smells. He's pretty beautiful imo.

this is AGL, cf daniel craig, sometimes

It can be and the pic FT posted is hottt but he's lefit shown up to some premiers in disgusting stained t shirts looking like he really hasn't showered in months. I think he may have had some errr problems for a time. It was an unhealthy sort of gross look not a hot one.

Don't understand how anyone could object to freckles tbh

Can we use this thread for vintage ws's too? Because

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/tumblr_lslcj93r4j1qdy7vgo1_500.jpg

The model Ferenc Berko used for his 'Nude Study, Paris, 1937' series... yes oh yes...

p much of the opinion that god invented freckles so that the ppl of the "Celtic" nations could get laid. (or maybe that's whisky, not sure TBH)

See also exhibit A:

http://newsflash.bigshotmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Aphex+Twin-b.jpg

Now, that's "conventionally handsome", I'll grant you.

Sorry, *shh*

I just realized that michael pitt and I sort of look like we could be related and not I've skeeved myself out.

ha ha, I have only just realised that Thommy there is totally biting the style of my No 1 Boyfriend...

http://www.radiox.ru/pics/r/tomx/ty063.jpg

http://www.ratsnest.com/pictures/albums/Aphex%20Twin%20-%20Richard%20D.%20James%20Album.jpg

I just realized that michael pitt and I sort of look like we could be related and not I've skeeved myself out.

This is a skeeve, why? It's part of the appeal of No.1 Boyfriend, TBh :-P

what do ♀ilx think of 'France's fresh-faced finance minister, François Baroin, 46'?

Any shots of him bearing his abdomen and/or biting a shirt?

Any shots of him bearing his abdomen and/or biting a shirt?

― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011

^^^^^^^would be helpful in deciding

Quick GIS shows him to be alright in a smarmy blow dried Nu Labour kind of way, but he's no Chuka Umunna that's for sure.

that "weird" picture of Thom is from a series of photos, including the other radiohead dudes, where they were all obscenely photoshopped in the glossy fashion mag style.

by the way, i'm in the camp that's cool with thom yorke (and anyone else) getting posted, just not 5 trillion times. it's not like there's a hard limit but come on

hard limit