Surely you would agree that you're in the minority in thinking that her '80s writing is the equal of her '70s (or earlier) writing.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know! Like I wrote, we all agree Hollywood film wasn't as exciting in the eighties, but I can't remember anybody arguing that Kael's prose suffered a commensurate decline.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I just have a hard time completely detaching the writing from the films themselves. I mean, obviously she didn't stop being a great writer--I'm not trying to say that. But for most of the eighties, I'm not as excited by her reviews of (say) Prizzi's Honor or Enemies: A Love Story or My Beautiful Laundrette as I am by those of Godfather II or Nashville or Invasion of the Body Snatchers because the films don't mean nearly as much to me. Now and again--Casualties of War would be the best example for me--we're back in sync. This is why comments of Kellow's like the Prizzi's Honor one above didn't bother me. I didn't even notice.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
Saw Chinatown yesterday at the Lightbox, introduced by Adam Nayman, a local critic. The two endings--Towne's vs. Polanski's--came up, and reference was made to Kael's review. This is one time where I think she was completely wrong: her contention that Towne's ending, where Cross gets away with it but Evelyn leaves town, would have been better. Polanski's ending to me is perfect--and I agree with Nayman that it's not Polanski's "gargoyle grin" asserting itself, but rather a very anguished expression of his guilt over Sharon Tate's murder. (Supposedly he always felt guilty for not being there the night of the murder.)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/movies/brushing-up-on-roman-polanskis-downbeat-endings/article2271445/print/
― clemenza, Monday, 19 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
funnily enough, I vividly remember Kael writing approvingly that Jack's dopey hitman in Prizzi's Honor played like a cross between Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton.
Of course, I prefer Prizzi's Honor to the first Godfather film.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
thx for reminding me that I need to see Prizzi's Honor
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
Huston had to explain to a flummoxed Nicholson that it's a comedy.
― Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
Something else came up yesterday that I'd never thought about, and I've probably seen Chinatown 15-20 times: Huston saying to Nicholson "Are you sleeping with my daughter" at a time when in real life he was.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 December 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Huston supposedly said of P'sH, "Jack, everything you've done is infused with intelligence, and we can't have any of that here."
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link