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lso, france might lose a CL spot because portugal for ex is slowly but surely catching up on their uefa coefficient. and that's because portuguese clubs play that tournament seriously

^this

You'd think some of the managers with lofty ambitions to 'ave a go at the Champions League would realise that a season or two in the embarrassing Europa League could get them a shitload of co-efficient points that would mean they would be very well seeded in those seasons that they achieved Big Club status and would therefore be better placed to 'ave a proper go and reinforce their Big Club status.

mortified of ILX (onimo), Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

ha, there was some talk about it for a couple of days, very few people actually claiming that there could have been match fixing and a lot talking about how the spanish press really sucks for throwing out allegations of that type. tbh on the day following the match there was next to no talk about it. then marca or as talked about it and it got picked up by french media relaying the news. but since then, nothing no. there was something today in one newspaper about how a ruling had been made in croatia about match fixing allegations but they didn't link it to lyon-zagreb in any way.

jibé, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

long-term strategic thinking not a noted quality of that particular 'ave a go 'ero iirc and xp

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

Mario Balotelli's remarkable penchant for embroiling himself in controversy at Manchester City has resurfaced in the form of a training-ground confrontation with his team-mate Micah Richards.

The two players clashed towards the end of a practice match preparing for Sunday's game against Arsenal. Witnesses reported that words were exchanged before the two players squared up.

Richards, in particular, seemed aggrieved by what had been said and the defender had to be restrained by other players as he sought to prolong the argument.

The incident has been described as "minor" behind the scenes at City, where it has been stressed that it was quickly forgotten once the players had returned to the dressing room. Richards and Balotelli get on well, and Richards later used Twitter to insist: "Me & mario are all good! these things happen in training & we shook hands after. It shows passion!"

It will, however, be added to the increasingly lengthy list of misdemeanours involving Balotelli at a time when the manager, Roberto Mancini, has spoken openly about being exasperated about the striker's apparent inability to conform.

Balotelli's form on the pitch has been undermined by a series of off-the-field incidents that has left City's management wondering how prolific he could be if he were to be more devoted to the game. Instead, the man who revealed a "Why Always Me?" T-shirt after scoring the opening goal of the 6-1 thrashing of Manchester United is someone Mancini believes has stayed too young too long.

Balotelli, to put it into context, is currently living in a city-centre hotel after his country house was set on fire when he and some friends set off fireworks through a bathroom window on the eve of the United derby.

Among other issues, he also had to explain to Mancini before the 2-1 defeat at Chelsea on Monday why he had broken a curfew and was seen out at 1am in Manchester city centre on Sunday. While the latest incident is unlikely to lead to any form of disciplinary action, the frequency with which Balotelli finds himself in trouble demonstrates, again, why this is a player who can infuriate his manager.

There is also an unwanted sense of deja vu for the Premier League leaders, with a number of similar incidents breaking out at City's training ground over the last year.

Balotelli himself was involved in two of them, lashing out at Jerome Boateng after reacting badly to a challenge. Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Touré were photographed rolling around the floor during another fight and, with Balotelli also photographed clashing with Vincent Kompany in May, the various issues have fuelled a perception that Mancini has assembled one of the more combustible squads in the top division.

City say this is not the case and that these kinds of incidents happen at other clubs – the difference being that photographers can get easier access at their Carrington base because of a public footpath that runs by the side of the pitches. The club are putting up new fences in an attempt to keep out the cameras

Number None, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

spurs tbf

bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

lando back to everton iirc, wonder if he'll stay this time

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

He won't.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah :(

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

GTFO DUDE ITS YOUR LAST CHANCE aw fuckit

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

cuauhtemoc otm

boxall, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

actually this has made me wonder -- are these short loan deals really a common thing? like I know it happens with GKs a lot but do many outfield players do the 2 months elsewhere trip and then return to their old teams? like usually it seems like it's at least half a season/between transfer windows.

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

the rules don't generally allow for it within european first divisions

schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

yes, lyon get apoel !!

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link

Lyon - Aopel
Napoli - Chelsea

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

milan arsenal

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

Sweet

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

AC Milan - Arsenal

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

Basel - Bayern

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

Zlatan can't do it against English clubs part 2,342

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

CSKA Moscow - Real Madrid
Leverkusen - Barcelona

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

Zenit - Benfica
Marseille - Inter

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

Zlatan can't do it against English clubs part 2,342

Yeah, well about time he did tbh

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Good draw for the French sides there imo

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Would watch all of those games

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Nice draw on the whole and yeah, good draw for Lyon. Bit less so for Marseille but at least it's not Barca, Madrid or Bayern Munich (the three best teams right now imo).

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

so
Lyon - Apoel
Napoli - Chelsea
AC Milan - Arsenal
Basel - Bayern Munich
CSKA Moscow - Real Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen - Barcelona
Zenit St Petersburg - Benfica
Marseille - Inter Milan

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

Who knows what the form/squads of these teams will be come February, but

Lyon, Chelsea, AC, Bayern, Real, Barca, Benfica, Marseille FTWs

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

Arsenal will beat AC imo

mortified of ILX (onimo), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

If their one man is fit.

mortified of ILX (onimo), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

can see the Arsenal and Chelsea ties going either way

Angles that bitch (Julie Lagger), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Agreed that the Arse can beat Milan

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

Lyon - Apoel
Napoli - Chelsea
AC Milan - Arsenal
Basel - Bayern Munich
CSKA Moscow - Real Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen - Barcelona
Zenit St Petersburg - Benfica
Marseille - Inter Milan

Lyon, Napoli, Arsenal, Munich, Madrid, Barcelona, Zenit, Marseille I'd hope for (while remaining realistic, I'd love for Real and Barca to go out, but so not gonna happen)

jibé, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link

wait so who is united playing?

ken c, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

Sporting Pécs iirc

Angles that bitch (Julie Lagger), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

Anorthosis Famagusta

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

Bendtner going down the Jermaine Pennant career route.

James, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

Bendtner is such a Stoke player, can see it already.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

castlebar town fc

bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

He'll be playing with a tag on soon enough.

James, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

Porto - ManC !

lebateauivre, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Ajax - ManU !

lebateauivre, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Hopefully both fall at the first hurdle then

Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty great draws there!

pandemic, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

hoping for Stoke - PSV tbh

lebateauivre, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm assuming Lee Cattermole waited for the car to go past him and then charged in two-footed from behind. And then stamped on it.

United can just pretend its the CL now.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

stoke - valencia! beautiful

sonderangerbot, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

merde. Stoke - Valencia

Some really great games here though!

lebateauivre, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

psv should be safe as long as they don't get udinese though

sonderangerbot, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link


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