free levels plus with higher smithing skill can improve your gear more. i can get stuff to flawless atm, i guess there are still a couple grades better than that tho, somehow.
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
flawless with extra pink ribbons on
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
idk maybe i am being a little too old skool rpg in this, but theres like no reason my dude would be banging away on an anvil to make daggers and shit so i hate the idea that i should do that to game the system? reminds me of why the fable series keeps failing altho at least that doesnt seem serious about what its doing so when you have to kick a chicken a bunch of times to level or whatever it isnt grating in the same way.
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
(obv this is still better than the last elder scrolls experience where a prime way to level was jumping all the time forever)
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't even think about the gear improvement point
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
It is pointless - until you get better and can improve yr kit - but I still like it? I prefer the play-acting to idk whatever arbtitrary point-allocating systems you had in old skool rpgs.
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Quality Skill Required Effect Without Perk With Perk Armor OtherFine 14 14 +2 +1Superior 31 22 +6 +3Exquisite 65 40 +10 +5Flawless 100 57 +13 +7Epic 134 74 +17 +8Legendary 168 91 +20 +10
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
xp I mean I'm the kind of player who obessively fills his bookshelves with books, tries to eat proper food, won't go to sleep in the daytime...
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's a little disconcerting that there is ZERO pressure from the game to actually do anything; I've basically been having a blast running around doing all sorts of irrelevant side and minor quests to the point where by the time I went back and finished the "go get the Horn of Jurgenflurgen" quest I was level 15
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah, i like the idea that practicing at shit makes you better at that shit and getting better at shit makes you better overall. i think this is maybe the best character advancement system i have played
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
'skyrimming' still sounds to me like a reference to a mile-high club activity
but this may be the game that pushes me to finally move on from ps2 ownership
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
lol dan i haven't got jurg's horn yet and i am level 36. i am going the long way round.
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
this is the first time in a long time I've played a game that involved copious amounts of aiming where I haven't wanted to destroy the entire Earth out of frustration
xp: lol awesome, how many dragons have you killed? I have done in a whopping... 3.
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
2. if i had it all to do over again, i would have been not stupid and realized that you can train 5 times per level advance, which means that by now at level 25 i could have dumped 125 EXTRA LEVELS into all of my who gives a shit dont use this skills.
― KERWRONG!!! (PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE), Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:15 (33 minutes ago) Permalink
this is sort of backwards -- if training your skills doesn't give you "xp" toward your next level, then you are shorting yourself on levels, since your skills have a max of 100 but there is no level cap.
theoretically you could train yourself out of a whole level
besides, raising your skills is fkn easy, and training is like thousands of money. totally not worth it imo
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
"buying" skills points does advance your level just like earning them would
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah, v expensive
i think ive killed like 15 dragons but i still refuse to unlock shouts other than a few because WHAT IF SOMETHING BETTER COMES ALONG
xpost but training your skills does give you xp towards your next level tho
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
basically if i had it to do over again id do the training to get out of the weird stuff like speech and whatever that is harder to really level regularly but is super useful
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
am i the only one using like every skill except a few? i started as a theify dude but i'm basically doing everything i can now. not using much destruction or alteration, no heavy armor or two handed, and not much pickpocketing either. but other than that, everything, all the time.
this has the weird effect of giving me a high level (30 something now?) but none of my individual skills are that high, except sneak which is in the 70s
xp there's a speech exploit but its super fiddly as they always are
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
killed maybe a dozen dragons i would guess? i guess they come on stronger later on.
i am absolutely in love with the ice form shout. i got 2 words for it back to back from that archaeology dig where you do the college field trip and then from a dragon peak right by it. it has been a total game changer a few times already
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
speech xp is applied on every transaction based on the expense of the item -- but xp for stacks of items (arrows, etc) is given as if it were 1x that thing. so, selling them all 1x a time...
yes i have done this.
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
lol top tip
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
my #1 go to shout in hard battles is the slow time one. also wrt skills being useless, man the illusion and alteration paths are blah. and yeah also pickpocketing.
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
the flame breath shout is awesome, it incorporates some of the 'force' shout, so you're throwing dudes around and lighting them on fire.
anyway, i have a lot of ~thoughts~ about the world and plotting of this thing, maybe i'll try to organize them and annoy you all heh
otm about the total lack of urgency in the main questlines. dragons returned to the world, civil war ripping the kingdom apart, would you like to take this pile of salt to a friend of mine? sure!
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
haha
i finally used a bunch of the perks i hadnt used yet last night and holy shit those things really really make a difference huh
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
have made a deliberate attempt to narrow range of skills i am using to not spread too thin. for better or worse committed to no magic at all except for occasional fast heal or oakflesh. no 1h or block or light armour. barely any sneak but sometimes you just gotta take that x2 when softening someone up with a snipe.
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
illusion has clairvoyance and muffle! both super useful. maybe the calm/fear ones are handy fighting big groups but since you can't tell what "level" any of your opponents are it's sort of a crapshoot.
xp i am crazy enough to have written down which perks i wanted
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
also no pickpocketing. made strategic decision to be good boy and not steal shit because i basically spent half my time in the fallout games stealing shit and i had to break the cycle so i could fit in more time to mine iron ore and make hide bracers.
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
thought this thread was about rimming while skydiving or something
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah i forgot to add block in my why bother skill list up there
clairvoyance hasnt really seemed to help me much, but i am one of those follow the right wall so i dont miss anything dudes when it comes to this shit. idk what muffle is
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
my life in rpgs forever destroyed by reading about how to almost always find your way through a maze when i was a kid
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
clairvoyance is more useful outdoors. muffle reduces armor noise when sneaking, but the nerds can't figure out exactly what the numbers are.
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
i recommend everyone still earliesh in the main quest save one of their dragon souls bc at one point in the quest you need to activate a shout to progress SPOILER when going to the throat of the world SPOILER and it's a huge pain in the ass to leave the quest to go find a dragon to kill + get a soul just so you can keep progressing
― Mordy, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
HOW I'M PLAYING:
sneak thru every dungeonstart fights with arrows, often with poison if I remember that I have a bazillion of themlol at Lydia charging into the fray like a morontry to Soul Tap mob, get annoyed when Lydia jumps in front of my cast and intercepts itlight it up with Flames or Sparks, depending on which one I have equippedsigh with annoyance when Lydia leaps into my flames/lightning and screams at metry to maneuver around to the side to continue face-meltingwatch Lydia take a knewwcontinue face-meltingdrag mob away from Lydia as I continue to melt faceswitch to fuckoff 2H axe enchanted with frost dmg and swing awaysometimes I do this dual-wielding an axe and a mace, or the mace and some destruction spell (usually Flames or Healing)get even more annoyed when I realize Lydia ran up behind the mob and my wild swings have killed herreload and pay more attention to where my brain-damaged tank is leaping so I don't accidentally kill herheal up afterward with Healing
If I have major problems with a fight, I summon a familiar or a flame atronarch to keep things except for the mob I'm focusing busy.
In my spare time I run through all my crafting materials for free levels.
I had to stop magpieing everything in the dungeons because I literally cannot carry and/or sell everything I have. I now only take food, ore, ingots, books and weapons/armor that are significantly better than what I have or are enchanted.
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol "kneww" = "knee"
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit i never thought of using clairvoyance outdoors rather than bumbling up hills only to find that they are magically too steep to climb all of a sudden! thats actually awesome and v v useful then.
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
that's kind of what i'm doing except lydia is dead.
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj9vvpnlRD1qz9upvo1_500.jpg
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
most of my perks are going in destruction, 1h and 2h
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
i am currently rolling with an ebony mace that i put a health drain enchantment on in one hand and varied destruction magic in the other, pretty much also sneak as much as possible (altho mapping of the controls means lots of the time i realize i am crouching and whacking people in the knees when i dont want to be thx to this). big fan of the flame enchanted bow sneak shots. pretty much heavey armor 90% of the time, and lots and lots of power attacks. oh yeah and along with lydia i am also traveling with a war dog who is sadly maybe smarter and better at not dying than lydia, but cant carry anything. only use 2 handed when i feel like leveling that and know there isnt anything super nasty headed my way.
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah and liberal use of familiars and the higher level raise dead spell
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
i threw a bunch of perks in lockpick and it has greatly improved the game for me tbh.
I am tempted to start a parallel game where companion death is permanent, just because that is likely the only way I'm going to see what the other companions are like
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
I've been perking destruction, heavy armour, block, 2h; might do restoration but speech and alchemy look pretty tempting too.
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah and i am an imperial.
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
FASCIST
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
I know I've thrown a random point at archery, alchemy and blacksmithing; can't remember if I did lockpicking as well
lol I'm an Imperial too! Basically I was vacillating between that and Redguard until I read "Imperials find more random money" in the race descriptions. I then of course made my Imperial as dark as I could in keeping with my "first playthrough character looks as much like me as I am willing to spend time on" rule (only I gave him a floppy mohawk because it looked hilarious)
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if some of the weird shit people will say/how they act towards you changes depending on race? like i am assuming that people wouldnt spend so much time talking abt thieving elf scum or filthy lizard people if i was one of them?
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
I'm a Khajiit. I kept on wondering why people kept on shouting "You'll make a fine rock hat!" at me. It's actually "You'll make a fine rug, cat!"
― ledge, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
i'm getting increasingly bothered by how fucked up and evil the whole cosmology of this world is. or more the point, how little the writers have thought to give you (even standard) good/evil choices in some of these quests, and have written-in reactions from the npcs based on what you choose. it's very narrow: once you're in, do it or don't.
i don't know if this is intentional or if its overall meaning was even considered. the "gods" are distant and weak. the evil "daedra" are everywhere, they give away kewl loot, and a lot of times their quests only turn super evil right near the end. thank you for investigating this place for me, now, beat this man to death. what? you can walk way but not say no a lot of the time. it's a really odd oversight.
the same with the racist civil war stuff. i'm playing as an elf. people routinely tell me how the the land of the aryans nords must be cleansed of its cosmopolitan jews imperial outsiders, but they don't have any recognition of what i am, and i can't tell them to fuck off, or anything like that. it's like this element is there, but not REALLY there. dragon age was way way better about this stuff.
xps lol
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
I sometimes spend time talking to the same guard several times in a row just so I can hear in quick succession:
"Watch yourself, IMPERIAL.""We'll kill all of those dragons with you around!""I've got my eye on you.""I was once an adventurer like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee."etc etc
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
wait you can own property in this??
― river wolf, Friday, 30 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah... what did you think lydia was all about?
(jkjkjk!)
― Mordy, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
Do quests for the jarl in each hold (or high monarch in Solitude) and you become thane and can buy houses, starting at 5k gold (unfinished) in Whiterun rising to 25k in Solitude. Double those figures for full furnishings.
You can also invest 500 gold in businesses to increase cash available for transactions, as a perk in the Speech tree.
The opposite of how I play Skyrim (I've yet to return to High Hrothgar): a speed run in 2 hours 47 minutes (the current record is 2 hours 13 minutes). Too many spoilers for me to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmg6H2qxFAw
― Filled with Kolaveri (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 December 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
speedrunning skyrim seems like totally missing the point
― Mordy, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but 2 hours and 47 minutes later you have plenty of time to play it the right way.
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
So far the only person or creature he has killed is the dude with the book and the king Draughr in Bleak Falls. He is finished with Dragonstone quest and is only like 1/4 of the way through L1.
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 December 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Read the collected written works of Skyrim offline on your Kindle, iPad, or other device.
― Filled with Kolaveri (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 December 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
in addition to other treasures (including all my creative writing notebooks from grade school and all my sports + trading cards) i found these in my parent's garage while cleaning out my boxes this week
http://i41.tinypic.com/55gzfm.jpg
― Mordy, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
sanpaku that is nuts. the writing in those books is so badddd
― slandblox goole, Friday, 30 December 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
Eh, they're quick reads, and its a better option for absorbing some of the background (this is my first Elder Scrolls game) than sitting at the desk.
― Filled with Kolaveri (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bPHtAHxB3iI
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 January 2012 07:08 (twelve years ago) link
arena!!! lulz
i kind of don't like enemy scaling, it can seem a little bit like it defeats the point. -- i mean then why even level at all.
― thompp, Sunday, 1 January 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
ff8 had an interesting system but it was broken every which way.
whatever, i am going to start playing new vegas now
Killed the first Dragon last night at level 7. was hungry to get with that shouting that everyone is talking about... As a Melee character, you just have to stay away from the business end of the Dragon, but I'm not looking forward to the later much tougher Dragons..
Not sure whether to stick to 2-handed melee or go though a few dungeons building up the one handed just for a backup.
I swear I hear Colonel Tigh from Battlestar Galactica do one of the opening voices and now every new character is a game of "is it Tigh?"
― hamildad, Monday, 2 January 2012 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
One-handed is for wimps. Quit cowering behind a shield.
― ledge, Monday, 2 January 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
i would use two shields if i could
― cutehound, Monday, 2 January 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
Dual wield one-handed = 2x the chances to accidentally clap Lydia round the head.
― woof, Monday, 2 January 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
one-hand + magic
rawwwwrr!
― Z S, Monday, 2 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
I swear I hear Colonel Tigh from Battlestar Galactica do one of the opening voices
Yeah, he's that imperial captain dude.
― JimD, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Is anyone crazy enough to attempt a complete game? I guess it would all locations discovered, all areas cleared, all main quests completed?
― calstars, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
"frakkin nords"
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link