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I haven't seem all of those GG honorees, thank God, but I think my favorite is Viggo as Freud.

Love how not nominating something that's only got huge amounts of pre-release publicity going for it constitutes "snubbing." It's entitled, just like Obama is to liberals' votes.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

The Ides of March love ends with the Globes.

Yeah, on reflection, that's probably true.

jaymc, Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

OK, let me get in on the Osc*r blogging: Eric, did you ever get to A Serbian Tale?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Worthwhile list except for the inclusion of Beginners.

Glad to see Of Gods and Men made the cut (good blurb, Morbs).

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Frankly, I could've put my top 4 in any order, but decided to go with the one that was most imposing, and had 99% of its verbiage untranslated. (I wonder if the DVD will have full subtitles?)

Most of the staff 25 that I didn't pick would've been in my #21-30 too.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

I found Certified Copy deeply irritating

Number None, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's partly intentional, and I wouldn't argue too violently either way. And I'm glad The Tree of Life is on there even if I was one of 2 holdouts.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Brighter Summer Day is on my list too – saw it for the first time that wasn't on a grainy VHS and respect/love it so, so much more.

remy bean in exile, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I saw it less than 3 weeks ago, but zipped through it on Google Video the other night as a refresher. (not recommended for a first viewing)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

props, slant, for your #1 (mine also) and for listing el sicario

VHS duct, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

the post office did not deliver El Sicario to me in time.

re the GGs, kinda shocked at Foster's one-note Carnage role. Michael Sicinski described her character accurately as "a fascist Amy Goodman."

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

My beloved H0u$+0n Film Critics Society sent this out today (ceremony in January)

2011 Best Picture - The Descendants
2011 Best Director - Nicholas Winding Refn, Drive
2011 Best Actor - Michael Fassbender, Shame
2011 Best Actress - Tilda Swinton, We Need To Talk About Kevin
2011 Best Supporting Actor - Albert Brooks, Drive
2011 Best Supporting Actress - Shailene Woodley, The Descendants
2011 Best Screenplay - Alexander Payne, Nat Faxon, Jim Rash, The Descendants
2011 Best Animated Film - Rango
2011 Best Cinematography - Emmanuel Lubezki, The Tree of Life
2011 Best Documentary - Project Nim
2011 Best Foreign Film - I Saw The Devil
2011 Best Original Score - Ludovic Bource, The Artist
2011 Best Original Song - "Life’s A Happy Song" from
The Muppets, music & lyrics by Bret McKenzie
2011 Technical Achievement – Rise of the Planet of the Apes
2011 Worst Film of the Year – Your Highness

Tumblr Whites Off Earth Now!! (Sandbox Grisso-McCain), Friday, 16 December 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

2011 Best Actor - Michael Fassbender, Shame

congrats on looking passive & moody & then at one point emotional

Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 16 December 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

There were flashes of his, ahem, gifts.... the restaurant date w/ the coworker and listening to sis murder 'nyny'.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

but it's hard to top that pair as worst films for a best actor/actress. ever. by anyone.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link

so he's basically in a 110-minute Romanek video

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

also, I'm starting to hate The Descendants almost as much as Alfred & Armond do.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't get The Descendants love at all. What did I miss?

Take Shelter was pretty A+ though.

gukbe, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

B/B+

I recommend the Sl4nt comments for our editor's response to the gadfly who wants us to champion films that have never played in the US.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

TS would've drifted into A territory if it weren't for the disastrous (har har) ending.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

I wasn't really grading it an A+ but yeah, I see what you mean. The ending didn't bother me though.

gukbe, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Ebert's top 20:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2011/12/the_best_films_of_2011.html

jaymc, Friday, 16 December 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

i feel bad for criticising TS as being heavy handed, given that the signposting (why this job's timely provision of comprehensive insurance coverage is just what I need!) is part of what made it tense, but it was a lil straightforward i thought. & yeah, freewheeling at the end, it coulda/should stopped (vaguely-)ambiguously in the shelter at the end.

There were flashes of his, ahem, gifts.... the restaurant date w/ the coworker and listening to sis murder 'nyny'.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 01:32 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

ehh maybe. the part of the story following the restaurant scene exemplified so much of what i disliked about it in general - the utterly vapid (but not intentionally, knowingly vapid, afaict) characterisation, with them talking about the 60s/time travel; the preceding actually-a-sincere-'montage-scene' montage scene, in which he THROWS OUT ALL HIS PORN to be a BETTER MAN. i thought CM was v good throughout, too much of MF was just him seeming brooding, and it was hard to read his 'inemote grief face' as anything too complex with mcqueen's weird moralistic perspective attached.

Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 16 December 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

moralistic indeed. empty, compulsive sex so much more fun, at least in my exp

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

the preceding actually-a-sincere-'montage-scene' montage scene, in which he THROWS OUT ALL HIS PORN to be a BETTER MAN

I was afraid of this.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Then why are you so miserable?

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

moralistic indeed. empty, compulsive sex so much more fun, at least in my exp

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:18 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

otm/yeah i just didn't understand why we were meant to attach our concern to his promiscuity; it could have been explored wrt the sex workers involved but that distinction wasn't pursued

the preceding actually-a-sincere-'montage-scene' montage scene, in which he THROWS OUT ALL HIS PORN to be a BETTER MAN

there are two long passages in which the dramaturgy seems familiar from like '90s shitty studio john hughes movies - the above, & a long overhearing-a-couple-in-the-next-room scene followed by an aimless BUT HAUNTINGLY SCORED shot of fassbender going for a run. i just couldn't understand how SM could make a film so light, unchallenging & unchallenged

Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah now i remember it the haunting string score w/intended greek-tragic gravitas was another frustrating element ROGER EBERT DO YOU SEE

Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Malick wins FC poll; Joe 2nd! Am I alone in thinking Boonmee was merely good? Kiarostami all the way down at 7th.

http://www.filmlinc.com/blog/entry/film-comment-announces-2011-best-of-year-list

Unreleased films -- I've seen #1 and look fwd to #51.

http://www.filmlinc.com/blog/entry/film-comments-best-unreleased-movies-of-2011

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

Boonmee left me pleasantly defeated.

Simon H., Saturday, 17 December 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

It let me tick 'watching a catfish fuck a person' off my bucket list.

gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

would like to watch an Apichatpong film without having to pause and take a nap halfway through. he's 3 for 3 with me on that count. i like him a lot, but they seriously just put me away completely.

berg non, Saturday, 17 December 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

The best part of Mysterious Object for me was when I fell asleep.

Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 December 2011 05:14 (twelve years ago) link

anticipating you guys vs Mysteries of Lisbon

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

personally my next test is going to be Extraordinary Stories.

Simon H., Saturday, 17 December 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

neither of those last 2 are boring, even in a good way

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

I like that Film Comment list, pretty close to my own. for some reason I found Boonmee kind of riveting.

ryan, Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not going to get to see Mysteries of Lisbon, but by the end of next week I should have seen 9 out of that top 10, which is pretty good going for me.

gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

and Indiewire also goes with The Lumber(ing) of Life; and Shannon and Paquin among the actors:

http://legacy.indiewire.com/survey/annual_critics_survey_2011/

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

The Lumber(ing) of Life

stretching, but we'll allow it

gukbe, Saturday, 17 December 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

ages since i saw boonmee, but re: good or great; i remember talking to a friend who wasn't crazy about it & thinking that, perhaps if more films or all films were like weerasethakul's, i'd be more critical, but that a big part of what makes them special is just that they are & exist and are treading that path, which makes me less critical about the specifics. it wasn't as cohesive as a couple of others but i still think of a lot of it & think it's a p unique, interesting achievement

Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

think of it a lot, probably what i was shooting for there

Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

also why the fuck did everyone like melancholia so much. did anyone here like it? it was vague & unfocused, took the wrong tone or pursued the wrong threads, & compensated with a kinda generic autopilot-grandiosity.

Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

I quite liked Boonmee but I've accepted that I risk foolishness explaining what makes this man's films worth watching.

Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 17 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i think that's part of it, that they're somewhere slightly off radar or out of reach. (i remember coming out of syndromes, having seen it with a few others, & each having as broad & entirely disparate a set of opinions about it as you really could about a single text (i don't think i'd even grasped it was about his family))

Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 17 December 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

also why the fuck did everyone like melancholia so much. did anyone here like it?

I thought it was pretty great, but I'm no LvT fan.

gukbe, Sunday, 18 December 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was pretty great, but I'm no LvT fan.

ha, that's a weird disclaimer. i like a bunch of von trier, i thought it was so confused though - maybe some of that is relative to how strongly he manages to embody a theme & stay on-point in dogville or whatever else. i was so surprised at how loose the first half was, & then how drably procedural & perfunctory the second half proceeded.

Never translate German (schlump), Sunday, 18 December 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

I really liked the end-of-the-world stuff, beginning and end; the wedding set-up (conceding they're bound together) seemed ordinary to me.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 December 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

I much preferred Antichrist.

Simon H., Sunday, 18 December 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link


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