S/D: Music from Mexico

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mexican american, but:
XIV til inifity - norteño gangsta rap

going to 7-11.org, download a six pack of midnight suns (eyy), Friday, 16 February 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"Go to the link for more (although I'm not much of a Zorn fan so this may not be my thing, plus how "Mexican" is it, hah)"

Spent sometime on myspace yesterday listening to these people -- basically Zorn doesn't come round till you go on that saxophonists' page, and then only some of his stuff has some of that -- he quite likes his electroacoustic improv, too.

There is one piece by the arto ensemble that basically reminded me of the Dead C -- of their tiredness, I suppose. One Bordon track had those Mego-ish submerged sounds. My fave out fo all of this so far ws Collective Kaoss 10 min laptop noise thingy - cpl of unexpected sounds, cpl of false endings as I now dimly recall - even then I ended up with a feeling I'd be bored by a second listen. Aspero seemed stuck on the sounds they were making; Espontanea ws improv and that one track had lots of energy, but you do wonder whether that'll all go in a cpl of years as they get bored of the applause. Naranjo's and Terrazas are ok-ish, I suppose it's gd to hear all this if you can't get performances of Lachenmann or whatever. I think the former probably needs time and distance (as young-ish composers often do) to distill whatever they've learnt into something of their own. Ivan may even have to discard all of that. Usually I do look out for any composers who are stretching the capabilities of their instruments, etc., or some kind of inventiveness on the instrumentation, or some weird combination where you think there'll be some remarkable payoff at a concert, and I couldn't hear that. Whereas that Argentinian composer that Steve picked out last week definetely sounded more promising in that respect.

Although of course this is all based on samples.

Saw the 'radical' word a cpl of times w/out any interest shown at engaging in anything from their own background. Are noises enough?

xyzzzz__ (xyzzzz__), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Los Tigres del Norte at the Bedford Armory in Brooklyn Sat. February 17 and at the DC Armory (their Armory tour?)in Washington Sun. Feb. 18th.

Here's more cut & pasted pr on what they're up to (and what their lyrics are all about):

Set to Take Place March 23 In Las Vegas, The BMI Awards Gala Will Coincide With The Planned March 27th Release Of Los Tigres Del Norte’s New Album - Which Will Continue The Group’s Role As The Leading Voice Of The Immigrant Community By Addressing Topics Such as The Immigration Marches, The Planned Border Fence & The Recent Mexican Election.

Look For Los Tigres To Preview Their New Album With February Tour Dates In NEW YORK, WASHINGTON DC & ATLANTA.

The Atlanta show was on the 10th

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 17 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I love what this thread has done for my mixtapes and my iTunes and the breadth of my musical knowledge.

Thanks to all!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver (hoosteen), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah Los Tigres are more out there politically with the songs they sing (but very seldom write) than whitey knows. "jose perez leon" is a killer song about a dude who died locked into the back of a coyote van (a van taking mexicans up north illegally), heartbreaking stuff. fortunately, they also still do songs about how fast cars kill and lost love and "no diet" (why can't i eat fatty foods in my middle age this sucks, I FEEL YA BROTHER) and lots and lots of lost love.

great also: GRUPO EXTERMINADOR, which is like Los Tigres except funnier and smuttier-minded and more self-consciously parodic. jenni rivera's new one sounds like it's going to be a banda classic, and i like the new yolanda perez more every time i hear it. which is a lot.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 17 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Mexican (i.e. not the U.S. or UK one) Kaleidoscope are awesome.

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Saturday, 17 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I just interviewed the singer/accordionist from Los Tigres yesterday afternoon. Great guy. Can't wait to hear the new album.

Tacuba are back in the studio at present, and working with Santaolalla again thank God (I thought Cuatro Caminos was basically a Spanish-language Flaming Lips album; I fucking hated it and I hope they've fired their drummer).

pdf (unperson), Saturday, 17 February 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Los Tigres do a 2 hour set late last night in DC. I'm tired. Will report back later.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 19 February 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Los Tigres live just crank out those songs, boom, boom, boom. They did 31 songs in 2 hours in dc, and I see in the NY Times review they did even more there--two sets that were one and half hour each. Although periodically folks handed written notes to roadies who then pass them up to the band who read them out--shoutouts to neighborhoods and people both here and back in central America. Then they stand for photos with audience members afterwards. The line for that was huge, and it was like 1:30 in the morning. Los Tigres had played straight from 11:15 p.m. to 1:15 a.m.

It's mostly all norteno which can kind of wear you out if you're not a cowboy hat wearing dancer ($6.50 a beer, $60 a ticket, $10 to park--there were some folks there with kids in strollers for this big night out with the legends). They mixed in some boleros, waltzes, sappy ballads and rockish numbers though. The sound system had the bass and drums booming, and the accordion was well mic'ed also, but you couldn't hear the acoustic guitar-like bajo sexto.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://universalmusica.com/TronodeMexico/Biography

Duranguese group Trono de Mexico just did a big DC show. The gig got no crossover attention--The promoter has a Spanish language facebook site I found (where he mentioned advertising the gig on a Spanish language AM radio station).

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

3ballmty have a debut album coming out, but it sounds like their attempt to go pop isn't going to quite hit the mark (not for me anyway--I'm less sure of how they will do with sales):

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8628413

I was all excited about buying this, but after listening to these clips and having heard the title track before, I'm not so sure.

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

(Anyway, unexpected medical bill today so I am probably not going to be buying any music for a while to come.)

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link


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