― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (sean gramophone), Monday, 4 December 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link
might kennedy run in manitoba? he's made a big deal about having been born there, and having grown up in edmonton.
― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Dion owes Kennedy bigtime for delivering almost all of his delegates on the third ballot.
I can't wait for the fur to fly during the federalism discussion during the next round of election debates. Particularly in the French debate.
A few weeks back, on real-ILX, I posted a link to a poll on the leadership candidates. IIRC, Dion had the best approval rating -- IOW, Ignatieff and Rae had their supporters but also had a lot of enemies. Dion was fairly well-liked across the board, he didn't really have a lot of enemies, which is a huge help when it comes to picking up support from delegates once their #1 candidate drops out.
though he seems like he may have been close to the sponsorship scandal given that he was intergovtal affairs minister at the time
The fact that this was virtually never mentioned during the whole campaign shows that fundamentally, nobody really gave a crap about the sponsorship scandal and that it was stupid for voters to "punish" the Libs by voting them out of govt in the first place.
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
You'd think, given that Dion will very likely become the PM at some point, that there'd be a rash of editorials proclaiming "How can we trust the Libs if they elect a leader with possible ties to the scandal? They haven't learned their lesson!" (i.e. the whole point of the January election was to teach the Libs a lesson, right?). However, this never seemed to be an issue and now everyone is giving big ups to Dion.
My stance has always been that the Libs screwed up badly and mismanaged our money, but despite this, were still the best party for running the country. Punishing a party just for the sake of punishing them or using directionless reasoning a la "it's been 13 years, so it's time for a change for the sake of having a change" is the type of stupid thought that brought us PM Stephen Harper.
(I know that YOU didn't vote him, I'm talking about the general voting populace)
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think it was at all flawed logic in the slightest that a change of the guard would be a healthy thing for our nation. Although I was more of a proponent of that idea when I thought Harper would keep at least some of his promises that weren't based on hating teh fags!
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I see what you're saying -- in the long run, change can be better because the opposition freshens up their approach and makes changes that they wouldn't have been compelled to make otherwise. I'm just not sure that it's worth suffering through a crap government to produce those results ... isn't that how the Harris Conservatives were swept into power?
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
(I actually think that many Ontarians supported Harris' "Common Sense Revolution" at the time though.)
― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Again, it's all about who can govern most competently! When one party screws up, it doesn't mean that the other parties won't screw it up even worse!
― No Time Before Time (Barry Barry), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link