Watercooler Sub Zero: Ice Capades

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x-posts short sample test on the cartoon site:

http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/dis_sample_36.asp

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

JB, there is a gastric flu going around. My mum thought she had food poisoning, but it was gastric flu.

Ed, it sounds like a sensible plan in the most part. But I don't think that you should go to grad school unless you know exactly what it is that you want to study, as it is expensive and generally doesn't open your prospects that much wider unless it is in a specific skill.

Going to live in NYC on the monopoly dollar would probably be a very interesting experience, and one I would reccomend. Especially if you keep capital in this country in the form of property.

The basics of the plan are very good, the specifics can be sketched in later when you figure out what you want to study.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Just take the test, JB. I don't think it's the be all and end all, the way my mum does. Just another interesting personality dissector. A bit better than astrology, but not as good as that INTP analysis thing.

Take what applies, ignore the rest.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed,

I don't think that you should go to grad school unless you know exactly what it is that you want to study, as it is expensive and generally doesn't open your prospects that much wider unless it is in a specific skill.

Yesss.

Also (in all good humor :) you know where you can take your monopoly money cracks. It is SUCH a drag literally getting poorer every day.

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

A bit better than astrology

well, I should hope so!

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The Brooklyn Polytechnic's Business and Transport planning courses look interesting (although the latter look a bit road focussed, unsurprisingly)

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, my family are South African. You want to talk about Monopoly Money... when I was 8, the Rand was just about equal to the Dollar. By the time I was 20, it was 8 Rand to the Dollar or something. I don't even know what it is any more, since the last of my family's money has finally come out of the country.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, but your family deserved it. South Africa was ruled by a tyrannic regime that spread fear and - oh, wait...

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Mitya, exactly.

x-post, yes, I don't think you'll get good rail based courses in America for some reason or other. Which is odd, considering how their country was dominated by railroads for the entire 19th Century. But the auto industry, yadda yadda.

My mum won't take trains now, which I find very odd. She'll take busses perfectly happy. I had to direct her to Lambeth Palace by bus. I think it's the 3 that goes there, but i'm not sure.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm equal parts 1,3 and 5! I'm either a perfect representation of humankind, or a schizo. So no help there then.

Gastric flu sounds probable. I've been told that coke is good for gastric flu, so I've just downed a can, and feel no appreciable improvement. I'm gonna leave it till lunch and if I don't feel any better, I'm going home.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, she could check out Captain Bligh's grave at the same time. That's right by there. I remember my teacher at primary school when we were on a tour of central London commenting on Bligh's rowing feats "I rowed round Cheshunt Pond the other day and that wore me out!"

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Generally, if you read the descriptions (and the "average level" ones are more helpful than the others) you can pick which one is "most" you. I can definitely see Type 1 in you, tho.

Don't down cans of things, *sip* things. Slooowly. The best thing for gastic flu, actually, is ginger tea. And not eating anything solid for 24 hours.

x-post, yes, Bligh's tomb is in the grounds of Lambeth Palace - we saw it when we went on the Parks of Lambeth walk.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The similar minds test tells me I am a social Type 2. Although 9 is close behind.

type score type behavior motivation
2 50 I must be helpful and caring to be happy.
9 48 I must be peaceful and easy to get along with to be happy.
8 41 I must be strong and in control to be happy.
1 40 I must be perfect and good to be happy.
7 38 I must be high and entertained to be happy.
5 36 I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
3 34 I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
6 27 I must be secure and safe to be happy.
4 14 I must avoid painful feelings to be happy.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Hrmmm, that is very interesting. I'm still not convinced by the test, but I suppose it brings out hidden motivations that I had not considered in others.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been told that coke is good for gastric flu

My mother believed this, too, but it always had to be flat. Also sipping only.

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Flat Coke is for hangovers, innit? Perhaps it's not gastric flu at all, perhaps I have passed my viral infection chesty-wheezy thing down teh interwebs to you.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I've got the chesty weezy thing, but I got that from Dara who got it from an Iguana. Hang on! You were at ATP! Maybe you got the Iguana Flu as well, Ailsa!

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Type 9 was my highest! The Peacemaker - The easy-going, self-effacing type. Type 4 and Type 6 were a joint close second (the Individualist and the Loyalist).

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I did! Oh noes! Mrs aldo wasn't very well either! ATP is bad for you!

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, I just took the test again, and I got a tied 1 (perfectionist) and 5 (investigator) with 4 trailing behind.

My problem with all of these tests is that personality is not a static thing. Everyone is different things in different situations, to a greater or lesser extent. I could be a 1 at work, a 5 in my creative life and a 4 in my relationships.

Also, personalities change and grow and develop or negative patterns get reinforced. I was a lot more of a 4 when I was younger, but I've mellowed, a lot.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys! A baby came out of me!

Hope all is well in the Watercooler, things are better than well with me, Matt and Alice (although time has no meaning and sleeping through the night is a distant memory.)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The Simple Minds Test dissed me :( Said I was Type 6 Anxiety. Which could be true, I guess.

6 20 I must be secure and safe to be happy.
9 15 I must be peaceful and easy to get along with to be happy.
3 14 I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
5 13 I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
2 11 I must be helpful and caring to be happy.
1 8 I must be perfect and good to be happy.
4 8 I must avoid painful feelings to be happy.
8 7 I must be strong and in control to be happy.
7 6 I must be high and entertained to be happy.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Congratulations Archel!!!!!!!

Wahoo.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Archel! Congratulations yet again!

I didn't think that Simple Minds test was as good as the one with the cartoons. Some of the questions were not very clear.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Hooray, Archel.

What does it mean when all of my trait scores, bar two are above 30, and all of jels are 20 or below. Have I got more personality as well as having a different one?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll try the cartoons one after lunch.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, I have a card for you and Matt but I don't know if I have the right address (does that hotmail address work?)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay to Archel and co!

*does a little dance routine to celebrate*

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Jel just took a shorter test!

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning, (or technically afternoon)!

HUUUGE Congrats Archel!!! This is wondrous and lovely and very best wishes to you and mr.Archel (and baby Archel).

I am equal parts investigator and enthusiast. Agreed with kate on the different categories for different parts of your life.

But I think the the fact that someone views these are separate is very revealing. I always think of an article I read where there were 'analogue' and 'digital' people. Analogues viewed their life as one whole continuum, made very close friendships at work, socialized with work people at weekends etc etc and were often very upset when they had an argument with someone at work. Others (e.g me) are digital and see 'work' and 'life' as very separate. We can be more detached about work problems, tend not to socialise with colleagues as much etc etc.

Hope everyone is feeling not too bad with their various cold and ailments (Ailsa, Ed, Kate). I am hoping for the greatest comeback since lazarus by testing the old ribs in my trad boxing day morning rugby match. It's amazing how much improvement there's been this week from last week's 'too excruciating to move' pain. I am borrowing body-padding, which I have previously eschwed as 'puffy' and 'not manly', just in case.


Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I am very digital. I am almost a completely different person in the different aspects of my life. (I always tell the story of how my ex partner was utterly *astonished* when I sat down and did his accounts, at how completely a different person I became when I worked.)

Take care of yourself at rugby, tho, Dr. C! I know I sound like an old worrywort but it can take weeks for bones to knit properly - it sounds like they are healing, but you do not want to undo all the good work and go back to "unable to move" by re-injuring them again!

How about you do something less strenuous on boxing day. Like, say, err, ice skating or somethign! ;-)

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I am fully recovered, thanks. (I feel hungover from too much geuze and cherry beer, but that is another matter entirely)

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel a lot better. I popped into the office this morning to see if they were replacing me* and they aren't, so I don't get to be all stressed, and I feel pretty much back to normal now, though am continuing to obey doctor's order and not actually do any work.

* temp agency putting fear of God into me about them getting in another temp so I wouldn't be needed, but having discussed with colleagues we think she's just cross at losing out on commission due to me not getting paid

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I am analogue but I used to be digital under Dr C's classification.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

many congratulations Archel! Do you have pictures? Flickr ect are blocked so I can't look at photo-sharing sites but the email addy works.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

geuze - what's that Ed? Sounds like something you might cough up.

I HAVE to play in thee rugger, kate, it's traditional. I have played for the last 19 years I think - twice with broken nose! Seriously I painted a room yesterday which involved lifting VERY heavy wardrobes and stuff around and have no ill effects, so I should be OK.

kate - here's something you'll like : I was rehearsing with the 'new band' on Tuesday. One of the studio blokes came into the room to get a mike or something - he stood near the door until we'd finished the song and at the end said 'that's really like a band called Rain Parade'. Whoa!! Whole new band thing validated by one comment. I (and our singer and drummer) REALLY REALLY REALLY love Rain Parade, not that we were trying to rip them off, but for him to say that really made me feel we're on the right track. Have you ever felt that way after someone has commented on yr music?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

congrats archel!

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes!

That is the best feeling, when someone picks up on something that is not necessarily overt, but is very definitely a huge influence - or a huge inspiration, rather.

That was especially true in the last band, when people would compare us to such lame things - even if it were in a favourable light i.e. "you're so much better than The Pipettes" - it's just like, dude, we're not even trying to do the same thing as them, why are we being compared? No relevance!

But every now and then someone would come up with something (Spirea X, Lush, Brian Wilson, krautrock, Stereolab - especially Stereolab) that got such a huge "yes! you get where we are going *to* rather than what we are coming from!" that it would make it worthwhile.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes - Pipettes v your last band is idiocy.
In Fr4ctured I am so fucking sick of 'hey you guys sound like The Fall'. Not that I don't like the Fall, but it's just too obvious. My biggest compliment ever in Fr4ctured was actually a bit of a diss, but it made me feel good - some reviewer said 'the Inspirals tendencies of the organist may not be to everyone's taste'. Ha! I am so bloody crap on the keybd.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

It's nice when someone puts that extra bit of effort into their comparisons.

A soundman once, after a L0ll!es soundcheck, asked us "you're probably going to think I'm making this up, but have you ever heard of a band called Young Marble Giants?" I nearly kissed him on the spot.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The funny thing is, when I saw you, you did the song "We're the Support Band" which i thought was pretty funny, but it wasn't until I saw I Ludicrous in Oxford a few weeks ago that I found out it was one of their songs coz they played it in their set. Later I contacted Will hung via myspace and told him about that and he said he was good mates with you guys.

I thought A Nation Mourns sounded like Uncertain Smile era The The.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

We rewrote quite a few of the words to Support Band for our version, but yes the orig is theirs. Will and John are good mates of ours yes. When we played with IL and Frank Sidebottom this year, they insisted that we did it and not them. Maybe it's time to hand it on to someone else soon, like a modern-day folk song?

Oh blimey - you saw the only ANM gig in 17 years, Mark? Actually yes, yes I remember you were there with Starry and DG and others. We're back in 2007! We're a bit different sounding, I'm aiming for sort of a cross between Magazine and Rain Parade, but who knows what people will make of it. 'The The' sounds not a million miles off. There will be a single early on in the year all being well. (April-ish?).

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

On the cartoon site test I am a type 5 (score of 6) but with 6 and 3 scoring 5 and 2,7 and 9 scoring 4.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed - what's geuze?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Type of Belgian beer, its a lambic so its got a lot of lactic sourness although it matured much like champagne (stuff last night was 2002 vintage). It actually has a very champagne like not to the taste. The geuze Boon we were drinking last night was quite mild and very fruity. My favourite, Drie Fonteinen, is really quite sour but is so good on a hot summers day. Geuze is the basis for most belgian fruit beers.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes I have been to the Bull and Gate twice in my life, Dr. C, and both times I saw one of yr bands!

Do you like Quadrupel (sp?) Ed? They sell it at the aptly named Classic Wine on Cowley Road. It's the Trappissed monks' way of leading you to alkyhell!

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Bleurgh, post lunch slump and I ate too many chocoaltes so I'm feeling *very* funny. Where is something monotonous I can work on while the sugar slump wears off?

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I have not tried Quadrupel, but I'd like to

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bottledbeer.co.uk/photos/latrappe4.jpg

Cor, 10%, monks really know how to get to alkyhell, what with all the beer, buckfast and benedictine (do monk make a drink not beginning with 'b')

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Capuccino.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link


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