J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

you know what i really don't give a fuck about? whether or not dell demps was "fully empowered" to make a trade. who is actually naive enough to believe that anyway?

― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:33 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Every executive in the league who tried to make a deal with him?

Like if the lakers were getting really screwed in that deal stern would have swooped in and saved them from themselves

as a lakers fan were you seriously in favor of that deal?

Not even. I'm just mad on principle

Swap for D12 in that trade and im down

yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.

Swap for D12 in that trade and im down

― Carnitas, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:48 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

um yah because then you traded a center and a pf for the best center in basketball, instead of trading a center and a pf for a point guard on a team that still has kobe!

Also bynum for pau. But u catch my drift

yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.
― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:49 PM (1 minute ago) BookmarkPermalink

Not better for they way I view this fucked up league amymore

They= the

hay dudes just wondering what everyone who was saying the hornets werent going to get a better deal for paul are thinking abt right now

abt how hard i owned you or something else

and ive said this before but absolutely the only thing david stern did wrong imho happened last year when the nba bought a team, thats a fucked up situation, seeing as he is currently the acting owner everything he did as far as the paul saga makes perfect sense, its just like an owner saying his gm has autonomy and then waking the fuck up when the guy makes a horrible trade, which is exactly what happened

hay dudes just wondering what everyone who was saying the hornets werent going to get a better deal for paul are thinking abt right now

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

did anyone on here actually say that?

you kinda ruined your gloat but going over the top there imo

i prefer not to have to like reread the thread, you all know who you are, or maybe not

we just said it was a fair deal for NOH.

naw

also it obvs wasnt, but thats another story

so in your mind you truly believe one of us said that that deal was the best deal NOH could possibly get? That there was no chance of a better deal?

ugh the fucking clippers?... u gotta b shittin me

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

matt just be cool dude you were wrong, dont be like all confrontational and more wrong

well dude you're making shit up

no one said "NOH cannot get a better deal than this"

we said it was a good deal for them

release man, i know you spent a lot of time arguing for that shit deal, and stern turned around and schooled yr ass

http://ballhyped.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/stern-300x220.jpg

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

― amon, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 AM (5 minutes ago)

the clippers will be v v good this year!

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

― amon, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 AM (5 minutes ago)

yeah the hornets are legit

lol i mean the clippers

the argument was

-this is a good deal for the hornets

-there is no overriding competitive reason for Stern to veto it as commish

The Hornets finding a better deal elsewhere was NOT the argument and you're being really juvenile in trying to turn that into the argument so you can be "right."

the clippers u mean

whoops meant to c+p this

http://www.foxsportswest.com/12/14/11/Raw-video-Blake-Griffin-and-DeAndre-Jord/landing_clippers.html?blockID=626930&feedID=3661

matt chill dawg

don't be this year's deej

matt srsly let go you were wrong

lol

no one should ever argue w/me abt basketball because i am always right

r.i.p. granny dainger

its sad he didnt understand basketball

dawg you totally have a right to gloat

the clippers will be v v good this year!

― k3vin k., Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:14 AM

http://southerngaragebands.com/crystal-ball.jpg

thank you i appreciate that xp

They got a better deal and you were confident they would.

but I didn't say they would never get a better deal, just that this was a good deal and vetoing it was ultra fishy.

honestly I think the trade was mediocre for all 3 teams... but that's kinda how trades work.

imho in a competitive context such as this one, the mere existence of a better deal, and particularly the speed at which is was found, proves that the other deal was not a good one - like you can be all i paid a hundred and fifty dollars for this dvd player that is a good value, but if its selling for a hundred dollars everywhere else then its not a good deal, also just as far as basketball assets exchanged it was not equitable imo

i do think the veto was fishy, but like ive said it all stems from the fact that the nba owns a team which is just completely insane and really twists the whole concept of the league as a disinterested arbiter, im much happier w/the way things turned out, it wouldve been ridiculous for paul to be traded for a bag of donuts, particularly by a team owned by the league, which just obvs shows what a jackpot stern was in once the original trade was announced

honestly I think the trade was mediocre for all 3 teams... but that's kinda how trades work.

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:27 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

naw the rockets made out like bandits, they must be hating life right now

adande said this btw

"Gordon struggled to defend big guards such as Bryant and Joe Johnson, and even Paul, a good defender, wouldn't be much help there. Now the Clippers can utilize the newly acquired Chauncey Billups, who's also 6-3 but much stronger than Gordon."