J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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the "owners of the hornets," i.e. owners of rival teams, conspired to fuck the Lakers. You may not think people "give a fuck," but it's disgusting and corrupt all the same.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol i don't really care at all abt the hornets but the clippers deal is much better than the lakers deal and you can't deny that that is a thing.

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol i don't really care at all abt the hornets but the clippers deal is much better than the lakers deal and you can't deny that that is a thing.

― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:17 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

Yes I can. It's immaterial.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

generally i associate "giving a fuck" with ppl taking action but maybe that's an unfashionable viewpoint these days

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

you can give a fuck and be unable to take action. Giving a fuck is an emotion.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:19 (twelve years ago) link

giving a fuck = having strong emotions about something

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:19 (twelve years ago) link

when someone says "I don't give a fuck" they mean "I don't care," not "I don't take any action regarding that"

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:21 (twelve years ago) link

It's completely illogical to say that Stern is vindicated because the Hornets got a better deal. The quality of the deal for the Hornets was not the issue. It was the league screwing over the Rockets and Lakers because owners were butthurt. They said Demps had full power to make a deal, the Rockets and Lakers geared their offseason around that promise, and then Stern fucked both teams.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

lol i don't really care at all abt the hornets but the clippers deal is much better than the lakers deal and you can't deny that that is a thing.
― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:17 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

Better deal for who? Why do the nets deserve a better deal? If they were willing (stupid enough) to give up what they did to the lakers that's their bad.

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

Matt otm btw

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:29 (twelve years ago) link

well for one thing the lakers should be thankful that stern saved them from making a really bad trade!

anyway i don't think anyone (hopefully even k3v) is saying that stern is "vindicated" because this whole process was handled poorly but eh it's a results-oriented business and i'm sure the lakers and rockets both know that these kinds of trades are delicate fabrege eggs that can be broken really easily for all kinds of stupid reasons.

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

Houston is the team that really got fucked imo. The Lakers are fucked either way.

polyphonic, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

carnitas what youre saying essentially validates stern's line that the trade was canceled "for basketball reasons"

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

you know what i really don't give a fuck about? whether or not dell demps was "fully empowered" to make a trade. who is actually naive enough to believe that anyway?

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

Houston is the team that really got fucked imo. The Lakers are fucked either way.

― polyphonic, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:32 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah houston got fucked but they're a smart team and had to know that they kind of lucked into a situation where they would be able to swing scola and martin for pau; they'll be ok

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

carnitas what youre saying essentially validates stern's line that the trade was canceled "for basketball reasons"
― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:32 PM (3 minutes ago) BookmarkPermalink

Yeah , well fuck stern imo

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

you know what i really don't give a fuck about? whether or not dell demps was "fully empowered" to make a trade. who is actually naive enough to believe that anyway?

― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:33 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Every executive in the league who tried to make a deal with him?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link

Like if the lakers were getting really screwed in that deal stern would have swooped in and saved them from themselves

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

as a lakers fan were you seriously in favor of that deal?

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

Not even. I'm just mad on principle

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link

Swap for D12 in that trade and im down

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link

Swap for D12 in that trade and im down

― Carnitas, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:48 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

um yah because then you traded a center and a pf for the best center in basketball, instead of trading a center and a pf for a point guard on a team that still has kobe!

cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link

Also bynum for pau. But u catch my drift

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.
― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:49 PM (1 minute ago) BookmarkPermalink

Not better for they way I view this fucked up league amymore

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link

They= the

Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link

hay dudes just wondering what everyone who was saying the hornets werent going to get a better deal for paul are thinking abt right now

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

abt how hard i owned you or something else

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

and ive said this before but absolutely the only thing david stern did wrong imho happened last year when the nba bought a team, thats a fucked up situation, seeing as he is currently the acting owner everything he did as far as the paul saga makes perfect sense, its just like an owner saying his gm has autonomy and then waking the fuck up when the guy makes a horrible trade, which is exactly what happened

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

hay dudes just wondering what everyone who was saying the hornets werent going to get a better deal for paul are thinking abt right now

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

did anyone on here actually say that?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

you kinda ruined your gloat but going over the top there imo

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

i prefer not to have to like reread the thread, you all know who you are, or maybe not

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:04 (twelve years ago) link

we just said it was a fair deal for NOH.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

naw

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

also it obvs wasnt, but thats another story

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

so in your mind you truly believe one of us said that that deal was the best deal NOH could possibly get? That there was no chance of a better deal?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

ugh the fucking clippers?... u gotta b shittin me

amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

matt just be cool dude you were wrong, dont be like all confrontational and more wrong

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

well dude you're making shit up

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link

no one said "NOH cannot get a better deal than this"

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link

we said it was a good deal for them

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link

release man, i know you spent a lot of time arguing for that shit deal, and stern turned around and schooled yr ass

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://ballhyped.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/stern-300x220.jpg

amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

― amon, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 AM (5 minutes ago)

the clippers will be v v good this year!

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3

― amon, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 AM (5 minutes ago)

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the hornets are legit

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol i mean the clippers

Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

the argument was

-this is a good deal for the hornets

-there is no overriding competitive reason for Stern to veto it as commish

The Hornets finding a better deal elsewhere was NOT the argument and you're being really juvenile in trying to turn that into the argument so you can be "right."

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

the clippers u mean

whoops meant to c+p this

http://www.foxsportswest.com/12/14/11/Raw-video-Blake-Griffin-and-DeAndre-Jord/landing_clippers.html?blockID=626930&feedID=3661

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link


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