Blah blah blah SB is an infringement of my human rights blah blah

and pasta

also if anybody wants to come see my one new band, Whiney and the Big Bottom Birds, we'll be playing a benefit gig next week for victims of unnecessary SBing

haha I was gonna say, at least this thread created a great bandname

the unfortunate (?) instance of Whiney and the Big Bottom Birds

how is this not a childrens book
xp lol

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yZa751uqL.jpg

you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

As a joke surely

Yeah I have never, ever seen this happen seriously.

Unless I've got it all wrong and everytime someone posts "SB'd you for that" they are actually SB'ing people.

Blah blah blah SB is an infringement of my human rights blah blah

i am not really gonna retroactively sb carnitas just for the record

there are like a zillion factors that make ilx what it is & the delicate engineering & interlacing of each is part of what makes ilx

otm. I think some of the things that prevent people posting are desirable, in that they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable, while otoh some of them keep out the type of posts ILX wants.

The real challenge is finding the balance. I've said before that ILX shouldn't be 4chan, but nor should it be Metafilter.

ilx: the best parts of 4chan and metafilter

they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable,

I've never been on another forum!

metafilter: the garrison keillor of the internet

http://assets.flavorwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/garrison-keillor.jpg

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty.

this is so sad!

just came to 77 and hang ten if someone doesn't like your opinion on the weeknd or whatever, it's such a bummer that people are afraid to contribute!

i think the internet has created this tendency for people to always have to feel "right" or that they are offering an opinion that seems correct or whatever. people worry too much about looking like they are "wrong," they also worry too much about what other people think.

lurkers worry about sb, apparently

Lurkers come forth, y'all can't be as bad as whiney and he survived four sbullets

yeah the average posters will never get more than 10 sbs during his/her duration as a poster

seriously, if you're a lurker and then you bravely come forth and offer your opinions, and they are so bad and hated that you get SB'd purely because you're so wrong all the time (and not because of a combative posting style or because you're actually insane), then i salute you. that would be amazing.

fu i'm permanently on 12

yeah I think the #1 stumbling block over getting new people to post is not fear of SB but fear of standing out among noted internet personalities!

I mean I think even lurkers understand why somebody like frogsbs gets SB'd, repeatedly, just mashed into the ground, over and over

I am unexpectedly missing the ilx thread where we ask a mod how many suggest bans we have. I don't feel right that we currently inhabit a world where that's an impossibility.

there was a time when I was at 11, but last I checked I was @ 9

I don't know much about frogsbs or most of the other 'victims' of the SB tbh, apart from Dom and Geir, they haven't really made much impression on me either way

But I suppose that's down to the threads you chose to post in

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty. Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.

― You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:21 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

ilx quality control, the secret ingredient that makes everything work!

seriously, if you're a lurker and then you bravely come forth and offer your opinions, and they are so bad and hated that you get SB'd purely because you're so wrong all the time (and not because of a combative posting style or because you're actually insane), then i salute you. that would be amazing.

― Z S, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:46 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

and his name was gabneb

haha otm

hahaha, ok but that was a rare exception, no regrets

yup

He's back though.

do we know that for a fact?

You tell me: 2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

ya I guessed the same thing but was just spectulating

i support letting everyone ever banned back in, sb modban or whatever, we can always ban them again right

Oh, and hi guys. :)

― C.K. Dexter Holland, Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Permalink

http://www.garybabb.net/DramaticChipmunk.gif

I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:14 (30 minutes ago)

i just really dislike the whole literally casting people out aspect of it all - if i were SB'd it would suck but i know i could definitely handle it, but it seems to hit others harder. i'm glad we've done away with permabans but i really think we ought to reconsider 30 day SBs as well, it just seems really cruel and unnecessary given the offenses most have gotten it for, and it seems to me like a temp mod-thread ban would suffice in most cases. i'd actually be a lot more OK with SB if it were like for a week instead of 30 days, i think that seems much more fair; all of us post here every damn day as it is so it's not like a week would be a slap on the risk.

as for improving the SB experience, many of us have suggested various reasonable things that could be implemented, none of which have been put into place or even seriously considered, such as a running SB count that you could check on the 'boards' page or something (to his credit forks and maybe iirc WmC have taken it upon themselves to email people who've amassed at least 40 (no, i haven't gotten one of these, lol)), or a notification when you are SB'd, and a way to see the post for which you were SB'd. another idea could be for the SB'ers to leave a comment of some kind, either to the SB'ee or to the mods, or both. i realize this would entail some more coding for the admins who i'm sure are busy as it is. i also strongly dislike the anonymity of SB, but that's kind of a personal thing i guess. it seems really cowardly to me - it seems like the person being SB'd should know who is accusing him or her of ruining the board for someone else, and why

for the most part i think ppl itt are kinda of the mind that it won't happen to them, other ppl should just get over it, which is kinda sad and pretty much counter to the way most ppl on this board ime go about thinking about other (admittedly more macro and important) issues

nothin but love

i still want to see these threads where ppl 'hit hard' feel like im missing all the good stuff rn

stfu jerk!

lol pwn

deal w/it (-B

kev k, ime, carries challenging opinions but does it pretty well

The reason a lot of ppl think sb won't ever happen to them is because it won't. I'm a dick but i've avoided it, for instance. There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's and even if it came as a surprise to them, from any reasonable POV it shouldn't have

That's obv just a ~dude's~ theory though and we're just callous brutes telling ppl how to feel so y'know caveat emptor

just came to 77 and hang ten

i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back

if only

there are no cliques on ilx anymore

Some real great stuff on 88, before real ilx crashed--lots of bitching and complaining and zinging.

does that happen tho? (xp at lex)
it's mainly people talking about their mornings or posting fb stuff

i like the idea of being able to include a message when you sb someone, feel like this could be the ultimate secret board

haha ok finally figured out who p much resigned to deems is, sup dmac

sb chatz

excellent concept

Suggest ban anyone who fucks with Cary Grant's name in The Philadelphia Story.