Magazine/website/record store BEST OF 2011 end-of-year list pile-up

could you imagine being the person who types out the pitchfork singles list into one list?

i take it all back about guardian commenters!

em2602

13 December 2011 2:23PM

As a teenage girl, and therefore considering myself part of Beyonce's target audience (rather than the middle-aged men who come here to throw in their mindless and useless waffle about how the music is average but it's fine because she looks good etc.) I really, really like this album. Part of me dies a little bit inside every single time that an artist that I like converts to the popular "dance" vibe of auto-tune and whatever the techno beats are called and it's refreshing to see an artist who is still so relevant can still get sales doing the songs that she undoubtedly does best.

<3 <3 <3

25. Soulja Boy – Zan With That Lean

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assume that is in no small part j0rdans doing

worst p4k top 10 tracks & general list ever imo

(zan with that lean aside)

could you imagine being the person who types out the pitchfork singles list into one list?

Yes.

my man

i think maybe too much effort can go into the commercially available ones though?

Absolutely agree with this - not really into mixes that try to 'show a full range' or educate or provide some kind of overview or worst of all..join the dots. Different things for different audiences of course and nothing wrong with those things per se but personally I just want to hear something that feels natural/organic and has a flow - think mixes become too tense or uptight when they don't do this

i think the RA mixes list is the best thing posted so far

worst p4k top 10 tracks & general list ever imo

s0 much garbage such a shame on their house

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lol I saw a really OTM comment in the guardian and then realised it was by tom ewing. figures.

the most irksome comment though is the one about the guardian needing a token black female in the list. like can you stop treating the straight white male experience as normative and universal FOR ONCE. anyway...

three good songs in the top 10 is a pretty good showing for pitchfork I think!

Different things for different audiences of course and nothing wrong with those things per se but personally I just want to hear something that feels natural/organic and has a flow - think mixes become too tense or uptight when they don't do this

This is the fault of the DJ/artist in question rather than the format though?

Difficult to say - if someone does an online mix which is organic, and then a CD one which is edutainment or overview, is it the format? the DJ, the label? expectation? internalized pressure?

No idea

Rock-A-Rolla Top 50 Albums

01 The Book Of Knots - Garden Of Fainting Stars (Ipecac)
02 Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will (Rock Action)
03 Earth - Angels Of Darkness, Demons Of Light 1 (Southern Lord)
04 Wolves In The Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (Southern Lord)
05 Boris - Attention Please (Sargent House)
06 Obake - Obake (Rarenoise)
07 Black Cobra - Invernal (Southern Lord)
08 Barn Owl - Lost In The Glare (Thrill Jockey)
09 Loss - Despond (Profound Lore)
10 Wooden Shjips - West (Thrill Jockey)
11 Mike Patton - The Solitude Of Prime Numbers (Ipecac)
12 Grails - Deep Politics (Temporary Residence Ltd)
13 Tombs - Path Of Totality (Relapse)
14 Alva Noto - Univrs (Raster-Noton)
15 Asva - Presences Of Absences (Important)
16 Enablers - Blown Realms And Stalled Explosions (Exile On Mainstream)
17 Hexvessel - Dawnbearer (Svart)
18 Today Is The Day - Pain Is A Warning (Black Market Activities/Good Fight Music)
19 Bloodiest - Descent (Relapse)
20 Killl - Killl (Fysisk Format)
21 Fire! With Jim O' Rourke - Unreleased? (Rune Grammofon)
22 Boris - Heavy Rocks (Sargent House)
23 Remember Remember - The Quickening (Rock Action)
24 Hella - Tripper (Sargent House)
25 Årabrot - Solar Anus (Fysisk Format)
26 The Atlas Moth - An Ache For The Distance (Profound Lore)
27 Mamiffer - Mare Decendrii (Sige/Conspiracy)
28 Gridlink - Orphan (Hydra Head)
29 Explosions In The Sky - Take Care, Take Care, Take Care (Temporary Residence/Bella Union)
30 Circle - Infektio (Conspiracy)
31 YOB - Atma (Profound Lore)
32 Dale Cooper Quartet & The Dictaphones - Metamanoir (Denovali)
33 Blut Aus Nord - 777: The Desanctification (Debemur Morto)
34 A Storm Of Light - As The Valley Of Death Becomes Us, Our Silver Memories Fade (Profound Lore)
39 Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraisoufo - The Ripper At The Heaven Gates Of Dark (Riot Season)
40 Amebix - Sonic Mass (Easy Action)
41 Mika Vainio - Life (...It Eats You Up) (Editions Mego)
42 Birds Of Passage - Winter Lady (Denovalii)
43 Rwake - Rest (Relapse)
44 Conquering Animal Sound - Kammerspiel (Gizeh)
45 Zombi - Escape Velocity (Relapse)
46 Terra Tenebrosa - The Tunnels (Trust No One)
47 Raoul Sinier - Guilty Cloaks (Ad Noiseam)
48 Ovo - Cor Cordium (Supernatural Cat)
49 Rising - To Solemn Ash (Exile On Mainstream)
50 Skullflower - Fucked on A Pile Of Corpses (Cold Spring)

For those in the U.S. who had trouble hunting down this magazine like me, Rock-A-Rolla is now available digitally for a reasonable price at http://rock-a-rolla.com/

Didn't know so many teenage girls read The Guardian

EveChang

As another teenage girl I am delighted to see Beyoncé place so high. But I do wish Male Guardian writers/readers stopped patronising teenage girls. I love Elbow and Mastodon as much as Beyoncé and I hope they place too.

Perhaps as a teenage girl, who is as open to pop,metal,hiphop,grime,country or indie, guardian writers/readers should be open minded as teenage girls. It's quite pathetic to see so called 'critics' dismissing entire genres of music.

hah i just got my rock-a-rolla magazine in

why wouldn't teenagers i read the guardian! i read it when i was a teenager

Like I said on the other thread, teen girls are better music critics than most of you.

I like that Rock a Rolla list p well, though every album from their top 10 that I've heard is highly underwhelming (with the possible exception of Barn Owl)

Yeah, that Earth album was a snooze.

I liked it, though admittedly it was more of the same. The Wooden Shjips album is really good too, as is the WITTR record.

eh I really liked the first track of the Wooden Shjips album but it kinda devolved from there into twee Doors imo

(still like it better than Mazes tho; props on Rockarolla for ranking it better than that)

lol at "Twee Doors". Not to be mistaken for "Twee Doors Down"!

That Beyonce blurb makes it sound much duller than it actually is though - "refined" and "mature" aren't words I'd used to describe it.

okay I just went back and listened to 'Lazy Bones' again and it was a lot better than I remembered, though it still has a bit of the cheesy late-Doors album filler feel to it

hey kerr does you new issue of Rockarolla have the big AMT feature in it?

let me have a look george

AMT are on the cover

5 page feature (though 2 are just photos)

ha I am friends with Kawabata on Fbook and he just posted a picture of that!

Awesome!

4.5 pages of it is their discography

nah just studio discography..

Rock-A-Rolla is always my favorite list!

have you heard that new Obake record, dealwithit? I've only heard one song from whats been played on outloud but I think it might be a monster!

its very good

the rock-a-rolla list is always different to all the other lists out there.

I've never heard of Obake, but I'm going to right that wrong today.

Rock-A-Rolla is the Whineyest list, and if I lived in the UK, I could see me and Lou Jag trading CDs of the ones we're missing.

I seriously wish i could run/invent an American version but I think it would sell like six copies monthly

yes, like with the RA compilations list, it makes me want to check out all of the records I haven't already heard.

I can't imagine rock-a-rolla sells a lot but its been running for 5 or 6 years now I think. It's bi-monthly (like Zero Tolerance) and both are surviving. You can at least get ZT in Smiths. I need to subscribe to get rock-a-rolla. Otherwise i think you can only get it in record shops.

xp totally. Quietus list does this too tbh, but there's def some overlap between the two

also lol Kerr I was gonna ask you to send me a copy of the AMT issue for Christmas

I'm kinda curious about the Book of Knots album; I dont think I'd heard of them tbh

aQ usually sells it George. Buy it from them

ok thx

the problem with rock-a-rolla is the patton/ipecac worship, which puts me off checking that album george. It does feel like they do this every year.

xxxp Neither had I, sounds like they're along For Carnation lines perhaps?
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Book+of+Knots

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