ILNFL sandbox thread, because you shouldn't pass up a chance to LOL @ the NY Giants

Tebow is not even close to the most physically talented quarterback in the NFL (and he probably isn’t even the most physically talented quarterback on his own team), but he has taken a team sitting in the cellar and lifted it up to playoff contention.

uh you are an idiot who knows nothing about football

also rip todd haley ;_;

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lol apparently one reason haley got fired was he wasn't putting in the hours expected of an nfl head coach.

just saving his energy to cuss on game day.

the rams are running the most inept goal line offense i've ever seen

lol my twitter is freaking out

Guys, watching the Rams play the Seahawks really makes you appreciate the ability to follow a team that is competent at football. Dear Lord, that last Rams Red Zone drive, just...I don't even know

Like I mention way too often, though, whenever the MNF guys openly mock the game they're watching, it is one of my favorite things on TV.

oh no chucky talking about tebow

<3 seahawk fans throwing skittles on the field

Hahaha that slow-motion replay of the shower of Skittles hitting Lynch is amazing.

that was definitely worth watching the 4th quarter of this game for

"this whole skittles thing is very bizarre"

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man 5 division leaders have win differentials w/in 11pts of each other, one has infinity w/in its gasp, and two are lol negative

So far the Bill Belichick coaching tree doesn't look too hot at this point, not one of them has had much success.

Weis
Crennel
McDaniel
Mangini
Haley

belichicks success has been more abt a complete organizational approach prob more than any other supercoach ever - thats harder to take w/you than like a defensive philosophy or w/e

i do find it kinda lol to watch his proteges fail for whatever reason, like picture him in his office cackling burning pictures of them mumbling did you really think id give you my secret formula

Belichick's assistants are good assistants.

there are 5 magic ingredients. no one else is ever allowed to know more than 4 of them and they swear a blood oath never to talk to one another.

also im of the opinion that the league has to some extent caught up w/him at this point

it also helps to have tom brady continue to be tom brady

oddly great coaches tend to be associated w/great players and vice versa

they still seem like a well-coached team to me, with serious talent issues on defense.

his record before brady was kinda bad wasn't it?

yeah he was a bust in Cleveland.

well imho their talent issues to some extent are caused by belichick taking his schtick too far, like any player who dares look him in the eye or like ask for a ten dollar a game raise is immediately cut or traded for mid round draft picks

his record in like 3 seasons as a head coach in cleveland was bad, but his record as parcells assistant was v good indeed, and parcells record sans belichick is p underwhelming

i was contrasting belichick with andy reid recently in that reid refuses to make any changes to his core approach whereas belichick is always trying to turn things over and find new approaches to keep ahead. he opened a little gap again on offense with the TEs but he has been struggling to make variations click on D. he'll come up with something eventually if he doesn't kill the talent pool with horrible draft picks.

his record in cleveland, contrasted with cleveland's record otherwise towards the death of cleaveland mk1, was not too bad tbh

i feel like occasionally you have to pay to keep yr good doods

they've got edelman playing cornerback. That's a sign that the draft picks are not going well.

xp kinda false to say they don't do that tho. paid big money for mankins and vince, and brady obv. with the secondary being what it is ppl complain about letting asante go but a CB who can't tackle for shit is anathema to bb

it sounds like the only other ppl who ever influenced anything personell wise around there, dimitroff and pioli, are gone and belichik has got carried away with himself, with no one to slap him out of it. he is apparently drafting against scout advice, and like joe says, he has definitely made his message wrt not taking any shit from players, maybe he can relax with the cutting all of the players from one position midseason thing.

if you look here you wont find a patriots player in the top 45 spots, which is p amazing and has served them well, but i think theyve just gone too far http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/

wow srsly there are two patriots in the top 100 paid players in the nfl

why is it just base salaries? some teams pay high base, some teams load bonuses. it is a matter of team philosophy i guess. this is curiously useless information on its own.

o rly i missed that scratch my previous remarks

their plan is fine: build around draft picks cuz non-first rounders are cheap. But they keep drafting guys who kind of suck.

i am worried it is a combo of bad draft and poor player development, because they have had complete suffers from the outset but also promising players that have turned to shit (pls bounce back mccourty)

well i think unless you attempt to retain some of yr good doods thats gonna be the inevitable effect

i am just "enjoying football" this season. as far as NE goes i have seen this movie before. altho even tho i know the ending i will prob still cry into my pillow after the 40-pt playoff defeat by baltimore. i have never seen a 10-3 team play do horrifyingly before, so that has been cool. and there is always gronk. i dunno, bill will come up with something next year. seeing this D must be like hot irons to his pride.

a lot of stuff bill has done recently including the play calling in last years playoff loss to the jets has made me think you know youre not an actual 'football god' right theres no such thing as that

No matter how inventive your blitz diagrams might be, if you don't have someone that can bust someone in the chops with some speed to track down the Qb, you won't have a pass rush. NE's D really has not been the same since

There is a reason that the Colts kept the money on their defense on Freeney and Mathis - their ability to make that big play makes up for having crap linebackers or dbs.

Pats haven't had a real pass rush since Seymour left. They have been a good club, but they lost the bust you in a mouth part of their defense when he was let go and those linebackers got old.

i just like to laugh when the pats and the cowboys get their asses kicked. when they get their asses kicked by teams that i like ... like the Jets ... that's just gravy.

The Pats the past couple of years are pretty much like most of Marinos teams in Miami. The offense can pretty much move the ball at will but the defense usually can't stop bupkus.

eh the patriots do pay, albeit cautiously. they paid wilfork, they paid mankins. i assume they'll pay welker and the TEs when the time comes.

but they're never going to pay for a cornerback, for example, and that drives some ppl crazy.

the fact that BB actually has a "numbers guy" in the booth who he calls upon to help him make 4th down/2pt conversion decisions is reason enough for me to like him

uall cant be all 'the patriots pay guys' and then name the same two guys, no one is saying the patriots have never paid a guy, be serious

o sorry i didn't see rs's post

lol most of the guys on that list of top paid players don't deserve their salaries like, at all.

its true! being suspicious of handing out big contracts is v wise, just think bill has GONE TOO FAR