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Gore actually does really well in entertainment settings. His appearance on Saturday Night Live was great - "The Bachelor" parody of his VP search that included him in a hot tub with Joe Lieberman.

It's only when he has to "act like a politician" that he turns into Gorebot.

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the hot tub was the also a very clear statement that he was out of politics for the time being. the talk shows are about more than entertainment. he was entertaining, sure, but he also had more command and ease than I've seen in his other appearances. maybe, though, he's more relaxed because he isn't going anywhere or he longer needs to be president (i think he could be running for veep).

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/11/the_2008_democr.html#more

― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the air america bankruptcy hearing is tomorrow.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

This oughta be fun. Yeah, Ed Schultz just announced that his show is moving to mid-days from 12-3pm, going up against both Rush and Al Franken.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone tell Gore that presidential debates ARE entertainment settings.

― Bill Weber (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

a surprise candidate? my guess is in that post, but it isn't the same as his.

― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(i think he could be running for veep)

Interesting thought. Maybe after another 4 (or 8) years of Gore as VP, the country might be ready for a Gore presidency.

― o. nate (o. nate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Sy Hersh's latest, about how the WH(i.e. Dick Cheney) might be/is still gunning for attacking Iran, election or no election.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Gorebot is going nowhere. Easy to be Mr. Cool when you have nothing to lose. If anyone's openly running for VP, I'd hand that card to Vilsack.

― dandy don weiner (dandy don weiner), Friday, 1 December 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

so now romney hired wetback gardeners and everyone hates mormons anyway. mccain despite his best efforts is still unloved by the christian right. gulianlli hearts fags etc.

who else we got? former fattay huckabee?

i am confused. how's this play out? is there a candidate for the loco religious 35%? someone to syphon them so mccain squeaks by? or is it that mccain is just a figment of the media's wild minds and once people really get a load of this pork-chop-hued psycho they'll run into the bland waiting arms of daddy romney?

i don't know.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

gorebot is serious, riding the sensiblenostalgiaregret wave. that is unless obama is in - then no one else is serious. and it's looking like he's in, no?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

re whistling past dixie: i enjoy the insight into the racist south, but disagree that they're the perfect boogieman for the dems. this kind of scapegoating inspires apathy, playing right into the hands of those nihilistic starve government types. democrats should go for the warm, idealistic, inclusive angle using those same bellicose right-wing nihilists (or rather their attitude, without targeting actual people) as their boogieman.

and while i do agree that the south is likely lost for a while on the presidential level, it doesn't mean there aren't congressional seats, governorships etc to be had there.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart [the lawncare company], Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, "Aw, geez," and walked away.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

the locoreligious are not 35% and likely aren't enough to beat Giuliani, whose national image is exactly the sort of authoritative, non-permissive, non-elite persona many on the the right like. which isn't to say that wouldn't fall apart, perhaps quickly, under the scrutiny of a real campaign, which is why he's running for veep, secure in the knowledge that he's the party's biggest asset.

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i've heard the loco religious aspect is around 35% of the gop, but maybe you have to throw in a few secular psychos or something to reach that number.

i have full confidence that a significant chunk of the electorate will see what an unappealing ass guliani is once they get a good look at him - he's ugly, he's a jerk, even his voice is gross.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

plus the homo-lovin wife-cheatin thing doesn't play too well in the gop primaries.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Is America ready for a lisping president? I don't think so.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and there's this guy http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/06/30/nyregion/Bernard-Kerik.jpg

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

once they get a good look at him

if he's the veep, they probably won't

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

plus the homo-lovin wife-cheatin thing doesn't play too well in the gop primaries.

who says he'll be in the primaries, or that, if he is, the other candidates will attack the guy they most want on the ticket, or that attacking the Saint of 9/11 won't blow back on whoever goes down that road?

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah maybe i could see vp. more likely he turns radioactive sooner than later.

so you think he's not gonna run at all, just wait for the nod?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

if it were actually a problem for him, why are all the people who are talking about what a problem it is democrats?

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

also, as i mentioned, this guy:

http://www.tricountyjog.homestead.com/files/kerik.gif

he's mob connected and he's rudy's best friend.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

if it were actually a problem for him, why are all the people who are talking about what a problem it is democrats?

which problem?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't the faintest idea what he's gonna do. but he's said that he might not announce until August. sure, he's got high name id, and can only benefit from avoiding scrutiny, but it hardly suggests that he's serious about the top spot.

no one gives a shit about bernie kerik.

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i could see that continuing or it could turn in to a foley-like quagmire. the only reason guliani's avoided much kerik scrutiny up to now is because he's been in the private sector.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and it's exactly the sort of thing that makes a presidential candidate think aw fuck it let's go huckabee.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's a two-way contest between McCain and Romney."

—Rich Galen, strategist for Newt Gingrich, admitting his candidate doesn't stand a chance yesterday at a forum of GOP strategists. Galen spoke of Gingrich's potential role as a candidate who could pitch ideas and affect the debate, but had little optimism about an actual victory.

heh

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama's on Leno tonight

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone who can get me to watch jay leno should have no problem becoming president.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

A neat little run-down about all the shit said about Brandon Mayfield, the oregon lawyer who got released and paid $2 million in damages for wrongful imprisonment, 'cuz one of his fingerprints was allegedly connected with the Madrid train bombings and circumstantial evidence for everything else. The LGF posts are particularly amusing.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

best Obama piece yet in of all places the Washingtonian?

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter is pregnant! Congratz!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120600221.html

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't watch the leno - not sure what this means.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

huckabee forgets he's republican, advocates kindness, hospitality.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jerome Armstrong weighs in on the Dems

― nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

why does anyone consider clark a serious candidate? dude shoots self in foot @ every opportunity.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Bill "Cold Cash" Jefferson wins runoff election - Louisiana in being tolerant of corrupt pol non-shockah!

― bliss (blass), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like Obama's getting set up to go.

Unfortunately, the experts have spoken, and Jesus would not vote for him. Oh well.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Armstrong makes much sense here, but generally I haven't found his instincts to be very sound

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/adbanners/ad.columnist.Chuck_Norris.125x600.gif

― and what (ooo), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

why is chuck's eyeline about 15 degrees askew from his jaw?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

tanned, rested and ready!

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Too bad there's no one with Kucinich's positions who has all the non-positional things Obama has.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

good Obama&others stuff here, and especially in the links

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

found this nice little cast photo from the first few seasons:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5105/bushsopranospi0.jpg

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a good link gabbneb but I'd say that the comments are even better than the embedded links.

― dandy don weiner (dandy don weiner), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

We need a rolling "LOL OBAMA = terrist!" thread, for stuff like CNN's Jeff Greenfield for broadcasting shit like this:

"...Is there any other major public figure who dresses the way [Obama] does? Why, yes. It is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who, unlike most of his predecessors, seems to have skipped through enough copies of GQ to find the jacket-and-no-tie look agreeable. And maybe that's not the comparison a possible presidential contender really wants to evoke.

[...]

Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful, but an outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil, why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread. Or is that threads?"

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So how 'bout that University of California taser incident, huh? Anybody remember that?

Nobody got fired. People are still talking about Kramer, though.

― Colin M (All names have been taken), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Well Colin maybe if you and I hadn't been such horrible trolls on that thread it would have gotten a sandbox revive

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

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