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I realize what my hope that Gingrich will win comes down to: enough Republican voters rising up and saying, "He's a slimebucket, but he's our slimebucket." So I'm a little nervous.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

he has a good chance, if only for one reason: there's a significant segment of the GOP that just rejects romney, and they may realize that time is too short to move to another anti-romney. so it may be gingrich, or nothing.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

"Gingrich, or Nothing": a winning campaign slogan if I've ever heard one.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

I've brought this up before, but I'll never forget the debate disaster Romney had here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qhCO7tBcaY

you can see the rage and resentment that is buried within Willard Romney.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

man I forgot about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-groI7IpExA

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

mitt is short for willard?

i never knew.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

all this time i thought mitt was short for mittens?

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

Those two clips are great. I was following the Democratic side much more closely at the time, and I knew next to nothing about Romney, but in the couple of debates I did watch, it was clear everyone on stage despised him.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani...when giants walked the Earth.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

it says a lot about the current republican crop that in 2007 they had guys who reduced Romney to wincing embarrassment but in 2011 they just have gingrich and the kind of candidates who think Solyndra is a country.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

Solyndra...President Obama supported the uprising, correct?...I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

didn't somebody make sure Rick Perry passed his vocabulary test over this shit already?

http://m.jumpstart.com/JumpstartNew/uploadedFiles/sne/pdf-screenshots/test-your-word-power-iii.jpg

www.myislamicdream.com (step hen faps), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

i see now that schlump has already said what i said, about the weird smiley passive-aggressiveness

my suspicion is that these guys have it drilled into them to always smile no matter what, so 9 out of every 10 still photos and live camera angles will show the candidate appearing "positive" etc

i have no doubt this is based on real research and is probably "good" advice ultimately but man it leads to some weird moments

his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/13/michael-tomasky-could-obama-be-headed-for-a-landslide.html

I guess it depends on what you mean by landslide--a landslide like 1980 and 1964, or a landslide like 1996 and 2008?--but this seems highly improbable even if things were going well right now. Aren't there enough electoral votes locked in for the Republicans that a classic landslide would be impossible no matter who the nominee were? And again, 8-9% unemployment producing a landslide...huh? Even if Gingrich were to get the nomination, I think Obama would win a relatively close general; if it's Romney, I think either Obama wins a very close general, or Romney wins going away.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

The only thing that might bring back sanity and civility is the destruction of the current GOP. If Republicans wake up next Nov. 7 to see that their extremist-obstructionist posture of the last four years has only reelected a president who started the year below 50 percent (as he will) and whom they should have been able to beat, then they might finally return to earth.

I bet he said this in October '08.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

i used to really love tomasky, he has been kinda unfocused at newsweek so far i think, & he wrote a pro-sibelius post last week re: plan B etc.

but re 'could the GOP be heading for disaster'?, i do sorta think that especially if they nominate gingrich, the huge disconnect between party infighting/base satisfaction, with the basic beer-test, tv-friendly, kennedy-vs-nixon appeal of a candidate could be exposed, and they could just bomb. idk how many people are vaguely in between but who the fuck is going to vote for gingrich in a GE unless they love him.

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

Or hate Obama...which surely covers many of the states that are solidly Republican. Gingrich or no Gingrich, I don't think "Texans for Obama" is going to happen.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

this video is worth 1000 words. but i've still reprinted 22 of those words below.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/12/romney-2002-moderate-progressive-not-partisan-Worcester

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican—that I'm someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

better embed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcjJEXt9To&feature=player_embedded

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

i used to like tomasky too until i realized he basically just writes the same columns as everybody else

his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

sheesh I'd never seen that clip

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

this race is gonna get so lol

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

i used to like tomasky too until i realized he basically just writes the same columns as everybody else

― his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:37 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

idk. i like him as a writer, i don't know whether it's just that i thought he was particularly suited to the informality of blogging, over the more necessarily fully-formed-premise-based nature of his NW columns. just hasn't grabbed me yet. & the plan b thing.

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Oppo research! Please get that clip to Newt a.s.a.p.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

I heard the clip of the gay vet telling the media hordes he knows Mittens is a fake by looking into his eyes, which frankly is BS. I'm sure he would've been impressed 4 years ago by Bam's lyin' eyes.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't think that clip was so awesome-awful either.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

In a sane world, not at all; boasting of your moderation is the kiss of death in terms of the nomination.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I think alfred was talking about the gay-vet clip

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

yes

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Mittens comes off decently; he answered the question without her eyes crossing, as Bachmann did when that kid programmed by lesbian parents questioned her.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

*HIS eyes crossing, heh

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Oops--I meant the one just above.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

without her eyes crossing, as Bachmann did when that kid programmed by lesbian parents questioned her.

her eyes weren't crossing. they were summoning a righeous blast of hellfire from the lord.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

and now for a funny little story about Mittens' dad:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jR1D9gmHyL8/TuepsEKfc2I/AAAAAAAAAO4/I9LGdawDEbU/s1600/GroganRomneyNYT.jpg

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Man, bring back the days when Republican presidential candidates actively campaigned in San Francisco.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

"articulation is a key identifier of intelligence (esp to me)."

?? i don't get this, its an identifier of a certain kind of intelligence but certainly a very limited one

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/un-newtening.html

:/

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

that poll detail is terrific. his boom was so fast it didn't even happen

slandblox goole, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Trump debate off; my condolences to you all.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

If they give up on Newt before he even has a chance to engineer a spectacular flame-out, I will be very angry. (Honest to god--what do these people want!?)

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

was honestly hoping Newt would get to spout a few more totally insane things before shrinking back into ignominy

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

newt will always spout totally insane things; you may just have to work harder to hear about them

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Back to point #2 on a list I posted of reasons why I wanted Newt to win: the sheer boredom of an Obama-Romney campaign.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

boredom with a fraudulent choice helps the 99%, not that you in the Great White North need care.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

We don't have rich and poor people here--just a Tim Horton's on every corner.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

canada just backed out of kyoto! the circus headed north too i guess

slandblox goole, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

man and just after Gingrich secured the coveted Giuliani endorsement

xp

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

This staple remover has emerged as the newest Republican frontrunner. It's fiercely anti-mandate, a proven job creator, and (surprisingly) has just received Rick Perry's endorsement.

http://www.mozenamedical.com/images/25-716.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

"articulation is a key identifier of intelligence (esp to me)."

No it ain't not.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

very sad to see the gingrich boomlet dying out.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link


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