Gun Etiquette

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If the father didn't let the kids handle the gun, and observed good gun safety rules while handling it himself -- setting a good example -- then I'd say no big deal.

William (C), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

idk man it depends on the targets, if there was substantial, actionable evidence suggesting they were terrorists then i guess it's fine?, but if it's just hearsay or some kind of ethnic profiling i think it could be setting a bad example

Never translate German (schlump), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think that is 100% regional context dependent. In Chicago "gun culture" is totally different than gun culture in, to use examples from places I've lived, NC or southern Delaware, where a bb gun is No Big Deal. Here, though, I could definitely see a lot parents having a fit about ANY exposure to guns. People just don't own guns in Chicago the same way they do in other places.

thejenny, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

I told him to wait while I thought about how I felt about guns

― good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, December 1, 2011 11:17 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

a bb gun? i'd say nbd. if said father was safe about it, sure. since it sounds like neither kid shot or even touched the gun, yeah ok.

the only quibble i guess is what kind of bb gun? there are spring-loaded ones that are very close to being toys (but not), and others that are pump or even CO2 charged shooting shaped pellets that can be a lot more dangerous. not to introduce more worry to your mynd.

slandblox goole, Monday, 12 December 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

I guess I was thinking about it from an ideological perspective rather than a safety one (although that would be my first concern). Lots of parents don't want their kids around guns (BB, toy) at all, so I would clear BB gun activity w/ parents because of that. But again - totally regional.

thejenny, Monday, 12 December 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

yes i have heard of these parents who do not allow toys with anything weapon-y at all. don't know what to say about that other than i am glad my parents were not like that.

slandblox goole, Monday, 12 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

lmao http://goo.gl/C92Fx

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the input guys. We aren't anti-weapon, but we are pro-safety. I'm not all busted up about it, but I still feel like I would have been totally cool with it if the dad had just called over and been like, "By the way, this is what's up..."

My wife is freaking out a little bit because before the kids interrupted him, the dad was using the bb gun to shoot squirrels for dinner. I think that's great and also somewhat hilarious; Lisa thinks it's terrible. We are two different types of vegetarian, I think.

rusty flathead screwdriver, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/12/travel/gun-carryon-atlanta-airport/index.html

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OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

"I was grazed by a pellet fragment on the left side of my face," Phillips wrote. "However, there were no visible injuries; the pellet safely entered my brain without cosmetic damage."

Never translate German (schlump), Monday, 12 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

yes i have heard of these parents who do not allow toys with anything weapon-y at all. don't know what to say about that other than i am glad my parents were not like that.

I was not allowed to have toy guns. But when I was in second or third grade, my dad taught me how to shoot an actual rifle. Also he used to stand on our back porch and shoot squirrels for dinner.

wore glasses and said things (thejenny), Monday, 12 December 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

See, I think that's the ideal, correct attitude to teach your kids about guns. By the time I came into my son's life, he had already amassed a little arsenal of toys, so trying to start over again toy gun-less wasn't really in the cards.

how suburban was your home back when your dad used to shoot squirrels from the porch? My personal perceptions of how suburban/rural our neighborhood is factor into why I think it's sort of hilarious. : )

rusty flathead screwdriver, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link

maybe you should start a thread about your perceptions of your neighborhood

iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

ahhhhh, that came out all wrong. my point being that my town feels pretty suburban to me now. And I'm not at all bothered by the hunting of squirrels for meat. I think it's probably at least reasonable meat and I'd love to try it. But we all live on pretty small plots of land in our neighborhood, such that the discharging of a weapon in your backyard seems weird to me, is all.

entirely not meaning to stir up shit in the way that iatee implies, and if so. I'm sorry.

rusty flathead screwdriver, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

cool thread, toys shaped like weapons are the best but irl guns should be banned forever, even so, if a guy wants to chill with his guns out nbd it's just hat you have a substantially higher chance of dying in that house than in most houses

max max max max, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

maybe you should start a thread about your perceptions of your neighborhood

― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 04:56 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

we should do this!, i have such a ridiculous ad-hom view of my neighbourhood (/town), i feel like the way you feel about a place exemplifies the kind of difficulty of separating your empirical experiences w/the fact that you still can't generalise about a place because you know like 0.001% of it & its inhabitants, and are usually judging it on the basis of very personal experiences

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

i.... don't think you can really kill a squirrel with a BB gun? sort of have to think he was using a .22

squirrels are fucking hard to shoot, btw, props to gun dad

his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

although negative props for maiming squirrels with an underpowered firearm

his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

how suburban was your home back when your dad used to shoot squirrels from the porch? My personal perceptions of how suburban/rural our neighborhood is factor into why I think it's sort of hilarious. : )

We lived in a housing development with tree-named lanes and a pool and a community center but plopped in the middle of rural swampland in southern Delaware (I had a loooong bus ride to school and it was a 15-20 minute drive to the grocery store). So not suburbs, since there was no urban area, but not really rural, either, since if my father aimed low, he would have taken out a neighbor's back window/cat/child. So yes, it was actually very hilarious (in hindsight. At the time it was awful because I hated squirrel and the whole endeavor drove my mom crazy).

wore glasses and said things (thejenny), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

xxp: Naw, you can kill small animals (maybe up to a squirrel?) with a bb gun. I think I would have heard a .22; this was right down the street.

rusty flathead screwdriver, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

xp: Okay, so that sounds like a similar dynamic as I've got here (just south of Annapolis, MD).

rusty flathead screwdriver, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

although negative props for maiming squirrels with an underpowered firearm

― his venerable escutcheon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:22 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

great sentence

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

xp probably very similar, especially given the proximity and shared swampiness!

wore glasses and said things (thejenny), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=84

^^^^ best concealed weapons

remy bean in exile, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

it's p disturbing seeing that because when i saw the one about the cats - http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=95 - i was hoping that the pics had just been sourced from some astute google image searches. but like i guess he actually has a bunch of guns around. and cages.

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

The cage is a humane animal trap - v common.

wore glasses and said things (thejenny), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

ah okay. still though. the covering it in red sauce &c, & the having a bunch of guns. idk. maybe i should just be saluting the effort.

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

you should be saluting the stars and bars itt imo

river wolf, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

My elementary school didn't care that I brought my pellet rifle to school for a 4th grade Thanksgiving play, circa 1990, along with one of my grandfather's pipes - kind of mind-boggling now, since either would probably get a kid in serious shit.

milo z, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWzgzby_hM

amon, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link


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