J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

lol you guys prokhorov is running for president of russia

things are going crazy in russia aren't they

this year is quickly moving from the strangest nba season ever column to the strangest thing ever

prokhorov is probably thinking "fuck bully king I'm gonna be PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA"

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
LAC don't want a LOdom situation on hands. Wants to extend Gordon if CP deal don't happen. NBA running deal for NO & wants Bledsoe added
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glad to hear the league is just straight up negotiating this deal instead of risking a repeat of that shitstorm

should be 'eman shumpert'

i'll vote for prokh

I thought you retired 'eman'

I mean, I def thought about it

the world is ready for a jet ski president

lol

off to my cabinet meeting brb

http://www.kommersant.com/photo/300/News/2008/01/13/KMO_093561_00001_1m.jpg

so the wolves now have barea, ridnour, and rubio

http://i.imgur.com/8HjAx.jpg

*colludes w/BRIC nations*

so the wolves now have barea, ridnour, and rubio

― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, December 12, 2011 10:39 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol this fn team

http://i.imgur.com/ULKIi.jpg

just need a few more point guards and we can win

oh what a waste of barea; lil dude was born to play in the playoffs

some on splain to me what happened w/the celtics and david west

i've followed it closely and can't really figure it out but seems like it was a complex sign-and-trade that relied on one of the old versions of the cp3 deal and they just couldn't get it figured out. pacers could just sign him outright with their cap space.

ah ok, west wouldve been weird on the c's anyway

they would have had two jump shooting big men

and four power forwards

yeah i was for it in the abstract because west can score with the best of em but it would have been weird team construction

tho allen/pierce/west/garnett playing together would be p sweet from a defense stretching perpective

the clips-hornets deal is definitely going to make the hornets worse in the immediate, but if the goal is to get younger players then it's the better deal. bledsoe and aminu won't be stars, so it will all hinge on who they pick w/ the t wolves pick and their own pick, both of which should presumably be in the top 5. also if i was getting bledsoe & aminu i would ask for another first round pick instead of kaman. or if i had to take kaman for salary purposes i would demand another first round pick. not sure what the point of that one is. they already have okafor and aren't going to win this year.

feel like the hornets would be in the position to demand gordon if, you know, they hadn't been neutered by david stern and lost all of their leverage

omg david stern protected them from taking a horrible deal!

they wouldve had no leverage because paul wouldve been traded already

well they could've done it a much more discreet fashion

like for instance if demps had heard behind closed doors that the three way lakers/rockets deal wouldn't work, he could've at least kept the negotiations of that deal going and played the clippers off of that, which might've allowed him to pry gordon

well they could've done it a much more discreet fashion

― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:34 AM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

true but i dont see how the hornets total leverage cashes wouldve been any greater

its all narrative, but the reality is assets

like for instance if demps had heard behind closed doors that the three way lakers/rockets deal wouldn't work, he could've at least kept the negotiations of that deal going and played the clippers off of that, which might've allowed him to pry gordon

― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

this just seems HIGHLY speculative

it certainly is

i mean the lakers n rockets did reopen negotiations

but in general i don't think that the way stern went about killing the trade was beneficial in any way to what the hornets are trying to do

i mean the lakers n rockets did reopen negotiations

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, December 12, 2011 10:38 AM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

they did, but i think at that point the whole thing was kinda killed anyway -- like for instance odom was already boycotting camp so they had an incentive to just turn around and flip him to dallas for practically nothing

but in general i don't think that the way stern went about killing the trade was beneficial in any way to what the hornets are trying to do

― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

it certainly wasnt beneficial to his personal image nor standing on twitter, my guess is where he made his mistake is that he was pretending that he didnt own a team, theres no franchise in the league where a gm is free to trade a superstar w/o checking in w/the owner, acting as tho this was the case until the moment where the gm made a bonehead play was p clueless - not convinced it hurt the hornets chances at getting a good deal tho, all the teams still want paul, the lakers/rockets proved unwilling to raise their offer, but that prob wouldve happened anyway, i dont see this brouhaha causing them to walk away over hurt feelings, the hornets already got a better offer from the clips and youve got to think other teams are waiting in the wings

hollinger on bledsoe - wouldve been interested to hear if he thinks hell ever figure it out hard to project i guess

+ Quick, athletic guard with good size and tremendous defensive potential.

+ Nominally a point guard, but no idea how to play offense. Serial overdribbler.

+ Poor outside shooter and lacks feel, but has great burst and can make floaters.

"Inefficient" doesn't really do Bledsoe's rookie season justice. Having him direct a possession, particularly in the halfcourt, was the basketball equivalent of punting on third down. For starters, there was the poor shooting -- he hit 42.5 percent from the floor and 27.6 percent on 3s, and while he could get to the basket he didn't draw many fouls. All told, his 49.9 TS% was in the bottom quarter of point guards.

That was bad, but what really put Bledsoe over the top was his woeful distribution. There were 68 point guards that played at least 500 minutes last season. Sixty-six of them had a pure point rating above zero. Not Bledsoe -- he was at minus-0.07 thanks to a disastrous 18.9 turnover rate, one eclipsed among point guards only by the miserable Chris Duhon.

Offsetting these negatives is Bledsoe's ridiculous athleticism and the fact that he was only 21 years old. Bledsoe was eighth among point guards in blocks per minute, seventh in steals and sixth in rebound rate. Even as a rookie he was a quality defender, and he could easily make an all-defense team in a couple years.

Offensively, meanwhile, Bledsoe shot 60.3 percent at the rim and can make floaters; also, high-mistake rookies are often the ones who make the most improvement in subsequent years. He has no clue on offense right now and he's still a solid backup. If and when he figures things out, he'll be a terror.

the truly strage thing abt all of this is the lakers trading odom to mavs for some stuff they had lying around in their junk drawer w/out having an sort of grander scheme ready to go

yeah... i mean i guess it was basically a "well fuck we have no choice but to trade him now" kinda thing

really hurts the lakers imo, but it's a good deal for the mavs. not sure him and dirk could play much at the same time cuz they would get eaten alive on D, but that's a pretty damn good sub for when dirk goes out

can somebody post the hollinger breakdown for the sixers this year

this'll be the year that I finally follow my team (now that I'm not overseas)

yeah... i mean i guess it was basically a "well fuck we have no choice but to trade him now" kinda thing

― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:58 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

but youd think if they were gonna move him for a top 20 protected pick where the other team gets to choose which year they use it they couldve traded him to a team not standing directly between them and a chip

yeah who knows

i read other gms said the lakers didnt even call them at all

that's bizarre

not sure how much one can trust anonymously quoted gms but the whole thing is really weird!

do the lakers even have a sixth man right now

lakers should prob just drive into the ocean at this point