J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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gilbert arenas cleared waivers. free to sign anywhere.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

QBKILLA Warren Sapp
Church's $$$$ On The Ground!! #TebowTime

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

I keep on forgetting that the clippers have potential now cuz of blake

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

"I don't like it," said Bryant. "To be honest with you, I don't like it."

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

:)

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

Late Saturday night, Odom's wife and reality TV co-star, Khloe Kardashian, tweeted, "I am curious as to how I am the cause for any trade?"

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

As Bryant continued to answer questions about Odom joining the team that swept the Lakers out of the second round of the playoffs last spring, his anger grew.

"Now I'm getting pissed off," he said.

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

lol kobe's comments are, like, 8 news cycles ago but i see you're fond of it.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

i'm also happy to see kobe so upset!

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

sry i went to the movies today so I missed like 25 news cycles

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

he dunks like a motherfucker, blocks shots, fits well with blake as far as my barely basketball savvy mind can perceive

― mayor jingleberriez, Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:09 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

eh really you'd want a guy alongside blake who could shoot. or shoot fts.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

how many of those guys are there?

k3vin k., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

sry i went to the movies today so I missed like 25 news cycles

no problem fyi dwight howard is now a clipper blake griffin is now a timberwolf and lebron james is now a net.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 12 December 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

how many of those guys are there?

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:27 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

eh probably about as many as there are good shotblockers.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

marc gasol is getting a max deal from the rockets? !_!

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

this made me lol

Hornets asking for E Gordon, Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu and 2 1st round picks, sources say

no pony?

mayor jingleberriez, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

why the hell ask for kaman

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

really it's pretty similar to the melo deal, which I'm sure went into their thinking there.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

Kamen deal up at the end of the year. Could flip him or move Emeka if they keep him. He's a chip, if a flawed and damaged one, and if DeAndre "no discernable basketball ability" Jordan can get 40+ million Chris will be worth something to someone.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

Hornets asking for E Gordon, Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu and 2 1st round picks, sources say

no pony?

― mayor jingleberriez, Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:58 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

this has to be some bullshit

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

If they only get Minny's pick it's a helluva deal.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

i mean... gordon, bledsoe, aminu AND two picks. i'm sorry, but no.

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Out of the two they're asking for, that is.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

chris paul is good but that's crazy

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

Why is it too much? Gordon is solid, eventually maybe an all-star, but the others are just potential. NOLA is trading the best PG in the game, and he's only 26.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but his knees, he's still amazing obv, but he lost that wicked first step

moonbop, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

just how bad are his knees!

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

chris paul has never struck me as somebody who gets by on pure athleticism - he's not the quickest guy at his height and he's got pretty short limbs

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

But Paul & Blake together? you give up most anything for that combo.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

i mean you're essentially trading three top 10 picks, a top 20 pick, and then two MORE first round picks for one player

idk man

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

for 2 years of chris paul

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

Picks are potential. Take a sure thing over potential or lose Blake. You might lose Blake if Paul doesn't work out, you will lose Blake with what you have there now.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

it was reported last year that doctors have informed Paul that he will inevitably need microfracture. I think the time frame is within the next 3 years.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

dang - well amare came back but.. guess CP3 is still young

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

you will lose Blake with what you have there now.

i don't think this is true at all -- banking on signing cp3 to a long term extension in order to keep blake seems a lot more risky to me than trying to build a west coast version of the thunder, where you have a good, young core that grows together and bonds because of that and wants to stay and play together

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i know the clippers are the clippers but being in LA gives them more of a chance than most, esp if they recognize that they could be better than the lakers in a few years

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

But the likelihood they'll be better than the Thunder is really low. Since they have to go through them to advance, I don't see why Blake wouldn't want proven parts instead of a hodgepodge of possibilities.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

it's hard to overstate how valuable that timberwolves pick is.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

But my main thought is it's the Clippers. They'll fuck it up either way, but I'd love to watch a couple of years of Blake & Chris alley-oops.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

I think Blake would be ok with choosing Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon over Chris Paul.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

But the likelihood they'll be better than the Thunder is really low. Since they have to go through them to advance, I don't see why Blake wouldn't want proven parts instead of a hodgepodge of possibilities.

― EZ Snappin, Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i just don't agree w/ this

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

if they made that trade this is their team,

pg chris paul
sg randy foye
sf ryan gomes
pf blake griffin
c ...they wouldn't have one

i don't see how that team is better than the clippers current core PLUS two more first round picks

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

If the Clippers were a well run franchise they would just be focusing on signing Deron as a free agent imo.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

but since they're total bush league they know getting glamour free agents is almost impossible.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

they don't need deron williams. if eric bledsoe is the fourth best player on their team (and he will be once they get a player from that t wolves pick) they will have a really good team. they aren't ready to win a title now, they shouldn't be trying to win a title now. there's a bunch of teams that have already built up teams that are better than them. they need to continue to draft well, build chemistry with their core and make a run in 2013 and on.

i think people are really underestimating the clippers chances of keeping blake if they follow that model

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

blake's knee could blow out again idk

am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, 12 December 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

Clips have Caron Butler at SF, but I get your point.

I just don't see why Blake wouldn't leave in two years because the potential is all further in the future than that.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

they don't need deron williams, but they could have him! Instead they sign flotsam like Caron. You're absolutely right that they should just keep drafting well. But if you've got cap room you use it, especially with the 90% salary floor forthcoming.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

it's really not! the thunder made the playoffs two years after they drafted durant and it became very clear that they were going to be a force

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

the clippers are going to make the playoffs this year

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link


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