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Sometimes it's what's called an "open o" as in the way that English people pronounce "bought", "caught", "ought" and BOT is pronounced either with an "ah" sound (represented by "a" in the bottom right of the "sounds of American English" diagram upthread. It's the difference between a sound that is tense (open o) and one that is lax ('ah').

The IPA can be used to describe any language, which is why it's handy when doing phonological transcriptions or interpreting phonological transcriptions of languages that we may or may not know. If you know the IPA and you see a transcription of a language you have no idea how to pronounce, it gives you everything you need to pronounce the word. It won't tell you what it means or how it's written (its orthography) but it will give you an idea of how to say it. You can also analyze patterns that way. It's also why it's futile to try to describe sounds as "flat" or "weak" or "wrong" or by using other vague/subjective adjectives. The IPA uses places and means of articulation to determine the differences between sounds.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry about that.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK!

So, today my old boss (who is way cool) and the two other guys I work directly with were going to go have lunch, bullshit, piss & moan, have a beer or two, etc. Well, today one of the higher-ups is in town, and co-opted our lunchtime. So, instead, we were going to lunch with my new boss, the higher-up, and a couple others. This option was slightly less appealing to me, but still, the prospect of a free lunch somewhere new was enticing.

So, I was sitting around waiting for a particularly nasty file to distill, and I heard people getting ready to go behind me. I figured they'd say "hey, let's go" when they were ready, and we'd go. Then I looked around and EVERYONE is gone. I got completely ditched! Now I don't have a clue what to do... I think I know where they went, but it's a ways away, I don't have my car, so I can't just go over there. What do I say when they get back? I'm fucking pissed about this.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Open O is also slightly higher than 'ah'. This is also visible on the diagram, which represents the shape of your mouth. Roughly.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That sucks, Dan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone have a cellphone? Could you call them and say WHY YOU DITCH ME?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I assume they do, but I don't know any of their digits.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait a second -- I'm not sure it's about tense and lax at all, but if there's something more tedious than discussing pronunciation on the internet, please don't tell me what it is. I don't wanna know.

How about them [sports team]?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Boo Dan! That once happened here to another clerk and going to a hearing. The attorney asked her to go, the clerk said yes, and then a half hour later called her from the hearing asking where she was. The attorney had just left without getting the clerk or telling her she was leaving...

Bot = baht
Bought = bawt

I say ARRR-nge. I draw the line at Lawrel, although I could easily lapse into it.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.carpshop.com/images/Left%20Behind%20II.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, i bought pretzels at jewel last night and learned two things: 1) they don't taste any better in the toaster oven than they do in the microwave and it's much faster to microwave them; and 2) the circuit in my kitchen can not handle me running both the microwave and toaster oven concurrently.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lecybercactus.com/images/uploads/articles/28days.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Kirk Cameron, how low you have sunk. Did he have a meth problem?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/images2003/movie_pix_j-p/omega_man06.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No, he has a Jesus problem.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/o/images/open-water-1.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Barack Obama keeps sending me emails telling me how many days it is until election day.

Dear Barack Obama,

I HAVE A CALENDAR.

--AK

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I knew that, I just thought a meth problem could have led to the Jesus problem.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Barak must read ILX, 'cause he keeps sending those messages to my yahoo spam address too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://leonardodavinci.csa.fi.it/studenti/altrimondi/film/img/et.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, that's the best one yet. Truly, I am E.T.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I got two post cards from Todd Stroger yesterday.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ET was really the grand finale. I can't think of anything else.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/e/2/the_abandoned__zombie_sketches.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a craigslist ad that says "we currently have 2 males and 2 females in the apartment and we want to keep a balance, so we're looking for a male roommte." THEN GET A DOG, YOU DUMB JERK.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

shouldn't they be looking for a hermaphrodite in that case? or is one of the males moving out?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

AH! Jordan has inspired me.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1401200761.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

And speaking of comics... They're making a movie from 30 Days of Night? That had better not suck or I will destroy a small Alaskan village out of revenge.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't read that.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It's really good! And the art is super creepy. Although, I'm not sure if I finished the first series or not.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

turkey sub made me sleeeeeeeepy.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel: we are currently scheduled for 7:45 on Friday, smack dab in the middle of the lineup. However, the band before us, I Need Sleep, is pretty awesome, so it might be worth trying to get there by 7, and then John's band is playing a couple of hours (?) later.

― nick a., Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

All right, 7pm is the plan. My parents are seeing a Bway show at 8pm and they gave me the night off from parent-sitting duties so I'll get there sometime. If I email you my mobile phone no will you text me so I have yours?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yep - email to naamme at yahoo.com

― nick a., Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I myspaced you already. Whatev.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic

Fuck the hataz. Just 'cause they have short attention spans...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I just glanced at my dictionary, which is still open to "horrible." Apparently "hop o' my thumb" is a term that dates back to 1530 meaning "a very small person." Etymology: "earlier hop on my thumb, an imperative issued to one supposedly small enough to be held in the hand." WTF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I still like Lost! Actually, the last show that I purposefully watched during its regular season was The Simpsons/X-Files Sunday line-up. Oh, well and Project Runway. And soon Battlestar Galactica, when I catch up.

Dag. I watch a lot of TV.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ajokes.com/images/pictures/fingermonkey.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand that comic.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

It's simultaneously making fun of bad stand up comics and the TV show Lost.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yenny, is there anything you want me to bring for the presentazione tonight? I will make the copies before you get there, so don't worry about that. Snacks? Costumes?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't think of anything. Is it going to bother the stoods that I got a little bit of burrito on my pants, do you think?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, you can even sit down if you want! We can arrange the desks in a circle. Or you can spray burrito on their pants and everyone can start on an even playing field.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew my Burrito Super Soaker would come in handy one of these days.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Good evening everyone! Today we're going to try something a little different..."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The combination of the words "presentazione" and "snacks" has made me crave calzones somethin' powerful.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't wait to go home tonight and eat more pretzels.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

This is my favorite webcomic about stand-up comedy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that you even have a favorite web comic about stand-up comedy is fascinating.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

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