There will be no sandbox Detrius 2011 thread.

YES!

Poetry is at the moment my film of the year.

ugh on Christopher Plummer, who looks like a shoe-in for a nod now.

racist/xenophobic assholes predictably complaining

xp

The Artist is the ugh of the year; I'd even rather see Hugo win.

I'd rather see The Tree of Life win.

LAFCA have been great at championing lost causes in best actress the last few years.

Yolande Moreau, Séraphine
Kim Hye-ja, Mother
Yoon Jeong-hee, Poetry

Sorry, I meant to say they've been great at championing the best actresses in best actress the last few years.

same thing.

The Sl4nt list is a good one! Coming in a few days...

SF Critics a mix of yay (Certified Copy, Redgrave) dull (Oldman), and ugh (Swinton):

http://sffcc.org/main/

I think now that this weekend's done, we're definitely past the point where "open race" can be used anymore.

Think we reached this point a little later than last year, tho.

if you're assigning Oscar Inevitability to The Artist, well, this is not the Oscar thread.

OK, you can have this thread.

are we going to have to do Sandbox Oscars?

That I've seen better silent-film pastiches than The Artist on network variety shows.... it just.... a different nadir for the AAs.

we're definitely past the point where "open race" can be used anymore.

But all we know is who gets nominated, not who's a lock to win.

also, critics groups not as significant as industry guilds on such things.

I'll keep Oscar chatter to a minimum, but these people look like mortal locks for noms: Clooney, Redgrave, Brooks, Streep, Dujardin, maybe Shannon and Fassbender.

also, I'm not sure how the Best Picture race is still not somewhat "open" when The Descendants won the LA crix award.

AFI top 10 is about what you'd expect:

http://afi-afifest.tumblr.com/post/14082575426

Meh, Oscar's never really embraced Payne up to this point. Unless Hugo can turn it around at the BO, it's The Artist's to lose.

I agree, tho, that we haven't really settled on any acting win frontrunners outside of Christopher Plummer.

I'll keep Oscar chatter to a minimum, but these people look like mortal locks for noms: Clooney, Redgrave, Brooks, Streep, Dujardin, maybe Shannon and Fassbender.

In terms of locks, I'd go with Clooney, Pitt, and Dujardin for actor, Davis and Streep for actress, and Plummer and Brooks for supporting actor. Supporting actress has a few probables but no locks yet, IMO.

Yup -- forgot to include Pitt and Davis, nomination frontrunners for months.

I think Spencer is basically a lock by this point. Redgrave very probable too. That said, they ought to just donate some of those slots to the best actor drag this year; it's too crowded for both Clooney and Pitt to hog up 2/5.

And as for the main contest, I bet Indiana : Oscars :: Missouri : Presidential Elections

Winner: The Artist
Runner-up: The Descendants

Who's Spencer?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0818055/

oh right! In that hateful movie.

That movie had only love in its heart you monster.

It can put that award where its heart should be.

Why do all those maids look like sad little rabbits?

*unhappy* rabbits, oops

Eric, you sly puss.

One good burp and you'll be rid of that Miss Plummer.

should not have expressed fear that this would turn into the Fucking Oscar Thread.

I don't get why you're so opposed to talking about Oscars in this thread. It's all detrius, no?

no. The Oscars are the glittery shart which follows lists/honors -- admittedly fewer of them every year -- that are done by some people with half a clue.

I guess my point is it's the only one ppl handicap months in advance, and it's the Worst. (except maybe the Golden Globs)

Critics awards are pretty idiotic too, for the record.

Critics awards are pretty idiotic too, for the record.

Fixed. (I kid, I kid)

Anyhoo, lets segue into something completely the same:

Sight and Sound Ballot

Armond White
New York Post, USA

Incendies
Denis Villeneuve, Canada/France

A moving post-9/11 vision of our utter connectivity that simultaneously recalls Greek tragedy and the epic-intimate miracles of 70s American films.

Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Rupert Wyatt, USA/Hungary/UK/Australia/Canada

A spirited re-think of the 1968 original captures the vengeful madness of our times – confirmation that movies can be pop and still be art.

Attack the Block
Joe Cornish, UK/France

A ghetto action flick yet amazingly prescient about London’s long hot summer and perfect antidote to what Morrissey called “the Royal Dredding”.

Paul
Greg Mottola, USA/UK/Japan

Nick Frost and Simon Pegg come to America and find more fun and depth than ever before in our pop culture/sci-fi heritage.

Film Socialisme
Jean-Luc Godard, Switzerland/France

Visionary as ever, titled to note the passing of outmoded technology and philosophy.

Reflections:
You’d expect a major publishing boom about a film critic to be a heartening occasion. Think again: this year’s biography of Pauline Kael and a high-toned collection of her writing has, instead, revealed the sorry, fractious state of contemporary film commentary as critics bash her and her legacy. Yes, the Age of Movies has passed, as the title of Godard’s Film Socialisme slyly jests.

Kael’s way of taking movies personally as a part of a humanist tradition is no longer apparent in the current stumbling into nihilism that pervades the festival circuit and passes for contemporary film culture. Movies that sustain humane values are ignored for political fads and negativity. When Cannes crowned Terrence Malick’s The Tree of Life, it was apparent that aesthetics judgment is over, too. It’s more difficult than ever to defend a personal view of cinema, as Godard surely knows. That’s why Kael’s bio has a Once Upon a Time aspect.

posted last week

I see now, but the comments weren't.

What the hell is he on about? I'm sure Rex Reed has a Personal View of Cinema.

A spirited re-think of the 1968 original captures the vengeful madness of our times

do you WANT a latter-day prophet inveighing against the hypocrisies of our times?

Yeah, I think I'd like to be an angry prophet inveighing against the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end.

let me show you a picture of my Pride and Joy

Camaraderie once again successfully avoided.

http://uashome.alaska.edu/~dfgriffin/website/KingofComedy.jpg

Don't cry. Just score it as an incomplete forward pass.

you can always put your failed camaraderie where your heart should be.

Our unspoken rule, Morbs, is never use the same line twice.

Next to a tenor, people who quote All About Eve are the touchiest thing in show business.

Inside a tenor, it's too dark to touch.