J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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bulls lost cause they only have one guy who can score, and cause bron hit a bunch of threes

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's probably the worst thing he does on D!

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

lol ur nuts

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

bulls 2nd team was even better @ D than their first asik and gibson arguably the best interior D combo in the league

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:27 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is true and amazing in the regular season but both of these guys ended up being liabilities vs the heat towards the end of the series bcuz they can't do shit on offense and eventually will get called for mad fouls

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

he blocked .9 shots per game last year. Like Nene.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

iirc at the end of game 6 they were playing kurt thomas at center

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

he's averaged more steals than blocks in Boston.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

even in minnesota his shotblocking and rim protecting was very disappointing considering his athletic gifts.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

he blocked .9 shots per game last year. Like Nene.

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:30 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

and he was also one million years old last year and played limited minutes

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

more steals than blocks in boston.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

a one million year old KG would prob be one of the funniest ppl to talk to

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

disappointed there isn't more valuable conversation about iman shumpert happening itt

dayo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

Pau Gasol career bpg: 1.7
Kevin Garnett: 1.5

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

man either u think blocked shots is a relevant stat or you dont matt, blocks and steals are both great, he can do both - what id suggest is looking at how much better bostons D got when he arrived, its really quite shocking - and i can tell you as someone who watched a p high % of his games while he was there including nearly every one during the championship season, protecting the rim was his #1 defensive responsibility

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

dayo i told you basically all you need to know about iman shumpert -- he might take 3 shots per game next season

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

man either u think blocked shots is a relevant stat or you dont matt, blocks and steals are both great, he can do both - what id suggest is looking at how much better bostons D got when he arrived, its really quite shocking - and i can tell you as someone who watched a p high % of his games while he was there including nearly every one during the championship season, protecting the rim was his #1 defensive responsibility

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:35 AM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

He's a totally awesome full court defender. Protecting the rim is the least of his defensive assets.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

possibly the only other defender who deterred layups better than garnett over the last 10+ years was duncan

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

j0rd ok, but I just want more excuses to see the name iman shumpert

dayo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

it's too bad that he'll never make a basket ever cuz that's a great marv albert name -- "imaaan SHUMP-ert"

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

marv would really deliver that like someone punched him in the stomach right as he started to say his last name

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

how do you even pronounce his first name

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

possibly the only other defender who deterred layups better than garnett over the last 10+ years was duncan

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:36 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

just... no. I mean, even bogut with one arm is better than KG has ever been at protecting the rim.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

oh I guess you mean another player who played over that span?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

i guess teams not being able to score inside on the celtics right after garnett arrived was just ~magic~

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Shaqtus definitely deterred more layups come on.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

when did thibs coach for boston

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

shaq was sick for a while but then he got fat

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

shaq is the biggest human being ever, so that's prob true

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

like how could you even be as big as shaq, it defies logic imo

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

when did thibs coach for boston

― am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:42 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

thibbs is a great coach but if you think he couldve done shit w/the pre garnett c's idk what to say

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

i guess teams not being able to score inside on the celtics right after garnett arrived was just ~magic~

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:42 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

They had Garnett playing awesome man defense! On opposing team's best big men. But challenging drives to the basket? That's never been his best asset.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just narrowing down possibilities jh0

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

he was straight patrolling the paint! as someone who watched all the games i assure you!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

or should I say... SCOOPS

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

has any NBA ever tried the 'fat goalie' theory of defense - get somebody who is literally so fat that guards would get called for charges any time they tried to make a layup

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

hes actually is vulnerable one on one if the opposing player has weight on him, he matches up well w/gasol but not zach randolph, for that they had perk, rip

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

he's always been a cherry picker with blocks. If it's a serious challenge at the rim he bails. That's why he's averaged fewer blocks than Gasol. He might "patrol the paint," but he doesn't guard the rim.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

or should I say... SCOOPS

― am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:45 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

http://doodiepants.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/gopher-dramatic.gif

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

has any NBA ever tried the 'fat goalie' theory of defense - get somebody who is literally so fat that guards would get called for charges any time they tried to make a layup

― am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:46 AM (48 seconds ago)
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you can't draw a charge with love handles.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fattest_man.jpg

c'mon this is def worth a try

am0n shumpert (dayo), Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

btw I'm not saying KG is a bad rim protector, but in the scheme of his herculean defensive gifts, it's the least.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

well maybe hes better at defending point guards in the backcourt, but that skill just isnt that valuable is the thing, considering the relative value of the defensive things he does guarding the rim is his most important defensive contribution

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

there's no way he's the second best at it over the last decade though, that's crazy

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

with the twolves he wasn't even as good at it as Nesterovic.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

This is all so great. They can cancel the season and just keep trading star players, then canceling the trades, and concocting new trades, round-the-clock.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Come Xmas day I won't have the slightest idea who plays for which team beyond Dirk being on the Mavs.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

kobe is mad lol

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing this makes me happy.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw1vtzpTY21qzb7vjo1_500.jpg

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

:)

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

knicks are gonna get crawford in a sign-and-trade

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link


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