J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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incredible

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

HPbasketball Hardwood Paroxysm
Cuban blocks the CP3 trade, then uses it to get Lamar Odom, which allows the Lakers to get Dwight Howard after the Mavs traded their center
3 minutes ago

idgi

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

I guess LA could use the trade exception for something, but obviously dallas thought odom was worth the exception, so . . . Seems like LA just loses here.

That tweet is crazy. For other reasons, it's now been reported that Howard doesn't want LA (as much as he wants the Nets, at least).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link

But who knows? Maybe now LA can revive their trade talks with the Magic.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Two rival GM's say they believe Boston will get back in it. "They have to sell Dell on Rondo," one GM says.
4 minutes ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

I don't see the positives in burning the reigning sixth man of the year for a TPE.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Sources say Lakers will receive unspecified draft considerations from Dallas for the rights to Odom, who slots in Mavs' new trade exception
56 seconds ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:13 (twelve years ago) link

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Says one Western Conference executive: "The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal."
1 minute ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:13 (twelve years ago) link

bynum, gasol & picks for howard?

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yep.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

Two big stars (one aging), but totally blows up the rest of the team.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

yah lakers gonna be thiiin if this happens

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

boston on the other hand is set to have apparently every player in the world

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

And LA will have no flexibility, either. Who else can they get?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

I doubt boston gets paul for rondo. If Paul opens up the net to teams such as Boston I think that net would include teams that would make a better offer.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

Now, if LA can just trade Bynum and scraps/picks for Howard, it's a good deal for LA

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

boston is likely willing to rent him for a year w/o any long term guarantee, so no opening of the net necessary

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:21 (twelve years ago) link

Why would Cs do that, if out costs them Rondo?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

god, that would be pretty reckless xp

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

because its their only shot at another ring

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

wow. I don't like it, Rondo is too good to let go for a (great) rented player.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:24 (twelve years ago) link

no he's not

cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the big three are so fucking old and will be gone soon anyway, whatre you gonna do rebuild around rondo

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

also pauls knees are nearing competition

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

and hey if you want to resign him next year youve got a good shot

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

UNBUTU!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

i mean we are all members of the rondo fan club but you don't want him to be even the third best player on yr team

cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
NBA source tell me the Lakers did not approach other teams with cap space or trade exceptions before making the deal sending Odom to Dallas.
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Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

johnhollinger John Hollinger
Any exception created by dealing Odom isn't big enough to take in Turkoglu. I'm not seeing LA's endgame here, nor why Dallas would help.
5 minutes ago

lol wut wait BALL

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link

what is la getting back??

cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link

picks

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:32 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe Lamar just told LA to f--k off, and they felt they had to trade him?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:33 (twelve years ago) link

Really a bizarre move, unless they can deal for Howard.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

lol if the lakers dont get paul or howard kobes gonna mass murder the whole organization

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

why wouldnt the lakers wait and do the odom deal as part of a three way trade w/orlando if they can get howard, doesnt make sense

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

if you were going to trade odom for picks, Dallas is like the last team you'd go to. They own no picks other than their own and they haven't had a bad season in around a decade.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

we r in a weird zone right now

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

hey jho what do you make of this

"We'll move Kevin," Rivers said. "He will play the 5 this year. I honestly don't think that it'll be a problem. When he was younger it would have been a problem."

"He's older, bigger, stronger and can play both positions and can spread the floor from that position," Rivers said. "He can play the whole game at center and it wouldn't bother me at all."

"I was fortunate enough to play in the big era [from 1983 to 1996]. Right now there's not many of them," he said of the dearth of big men. "Dwight (Howard) and (Andrew) Bynum are two that come to mind. I might be missing one or two."

cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the return for odom was dallas' trade exception (so, money, not picks)

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

Man, after Odom and Bynum in the playoffs last season, Odom on the Mavs is going to be, uh, interesting.

milo z, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

wtf is even going ON

clay, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

i recall people saying garnet didnt like playing center, tho he did a bunch in minny, but it is true there arent too many giant dudes to push him around left, idk

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

I don't recall him playing much center at all in Minny. and I was a hardcore minny fan from 98-2002 or so.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

really i could be misremembering

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

He played a bunch of center last year after all the injuries. Not starter's minutes though, which is what I think he was always opposed to.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

maybe it was after that tho, i think like that was part of his beef w/the organization, that he was playing too much center

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol he prob shouldnt be playing starters minutes at any position

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

They've signed Chris Wilcox to spell him so it should be fine.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:47 (twelve years ago) link

the hornets have 6 players in camp.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link

chris wilcox, jeff green, david west - these guys all give off similar vibes

Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link


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