J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

don't really understand point guard + shooting guard combo

like, CP3 + dwight howard = rack 'em up. CP3 + kobe - how is CP3 gonna help create more scoring opportunities for Kobels?

i don't understand what could be included in this trade to make it more palatable -- i mean, the lakers have no young players, unless you consider, uh, derrick caracter

ATER MAJOK

In the details available to Yahoo! Sports, Paul goes the Lakers, Pau Gasol to the Rockets, and Houston still sends Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, and a 2012 first-round pick to the Hornets. The main changes in the deal, originally nixed by the NBA, will come between New Orleans and the Lakers, sources say.

i still dgi -- hollinger is speculating that it means bynum is getting flipped for okafor

CP3 + kobe - how is CP3 gonna help create more scoring opportunities for Kobels?

yeah, i think this is right. it creates for LAL the same type of potential redundancies that led to criticism of the wade/bron pairing, but -- for a lot of reasons (including age and health/durability) -- the latter has a lot more upside potential than the former. now if LA adds howard, that will help, but as i say, a lot depends on health and durability. and yeah, kobe may decline fast.

wait, bynum for someone besides howard? i'm a little behind the news today.

which means that the lakers would've traded their two best big men, absorbed the core of last year's 7th seed, and added a 33 year old kobe bryant

well done?

the bynum thing is just john hollinger's speculation as to how paul, gasol, scola and martin can still be involved in a deal that will be in any way significantly different than the nixed trade

odom stays in LA as part of this deal?

so that would be odom -- WORLD PEACE -- bynum -- kobE -- CP3

ehhhhh . . . yeah, i guess.

no, bynum would be leaving

the parameters of this deal are unclear to me. bynum leaving for anything less than howard has to be a big disappointment to LA, since they have nothing left to offer the magic, i assume.

if the Magic lose howard they might as well just create animatronic fans to attend teh games

odom was sulking, last I heard

he'll get over it

cuz he's sleeping w/ a Kardashian

well they would be getting back okafor, so in hollinger's theoretical deal their line up would look like

paul-bryant-world peace-odom-okafor

w/ no bench to speak of

again, this is just hollinger speculating on how the deal could go through and involve the hornets getting back a good, young player

honestly i think that the nets would trump whatever deal the lakers could put up if all they had to offer was bynum anyway

yeah. okafor's okay. he's no dwight howard, and he offers nothing that the magic would want for dwight howard.

that LAL lineup isn't too scary to me, especially with no bench.

odom was sulking, last I heard

― Aimless, Saturday, December 10, 2011

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he'll get over it

― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Saturday, December 10, 2011

he will! here's how: kobe bryant will say to him, "shut the f--k up, lamar odom."

i'm pretty sure odom, who will continue to be paid millions of dollars to play basketball professionally in los angeles, will get over it

meanwhile, the hornets

jack
martin
ariza
scola
bynum

this is a playoff team

honestly tho, on the one hand the lakers would be crazy to send out gasol and bynum and get back anyone besides howard, but on the other, i don't see how this deal goes through otherwise. there's no one of consequence left to trade besides bynum.

The Lakers (read: Kupchak) seem to think that Kobe's knees can make it through the shortened season and maybe they can steal one last title before the major rebuilding phase starts.

i still dgi -- hollinger is speculating that it means bynum is getting flipped for okafor

― v-shasty, Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:00 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

makes sense

honestly tho, on the one hand the lakers would be crazy to send out gasol and bynum and get back anyone besides howard, but on the other, i don't see how this deal goes through otherwise. there's no one of consequence left to trade besides bynum.

― v-shasty, Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

guess the lakers figured they just didnt have the pieces to get howard

anyway if theyre shipping gasol and bynum for paul and okafor, lol lakers

well idk, you have to think that gasol and bynum would trump any deal for howard, right?

eh who knows, once again its not really young players draft picks and cap relief

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Knicks have waived Chauncey Billups under amnesty provision.

feel like if howard gets moved the magic will get a major haul, im trying to recall when a player of his caliber got traded, and not some bullshit sign n trade ala bron but a real trade

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even ...
3 minutes ago

this guy the hornets gm i can only conclude is a frickin idiot

this guy the hornets gm i can only conclude is trolling the fuck out of david stern

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Lots of speculation that Emeka Okafor is in the new CP3 deal. Source says he is not part of trade.

so idg what's even going on

I'm impressed by how well Pistons did on Hamilton's buy-out. He took $8 million while owed $25 million. Also, since they didn't use their amnesty on him, they could ditch Gordon or Charlie V. now or in the future and be seriously under the cap.

Of course, they'd have to use that space in a trade because nobody better than Ben or Charlie is signing as a free agent.

yeah, the CP3 trade is moving too fast, but it all seems to point to two things (to me): (a) LAL will lose a lot of the big size that's served them well in their recent championship seasons (okafur just doesn't impress me as equal to the bigs the lakers would be losing) and (b) they won't have enough left over, after the trade, to offer to the magic for dwight howard.

on balance, this seems like a bad deal for LAL.

i still think the best match for the magic is... the bulls

stop it!

dwight howard will be a perfect fit for the NYNets.

i mean they're the only team that can keep their best player and still offer the magic anything halfway decent

i guess a third team can always be roped in

yeah besides bron straight up bulls prob make the most sense

god damn billups is being hella cunty

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For teams considering claim on Chauncey Billups, he tells Y!: "A leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive..This is about me now."

u go girl

you mean lebron for the ENTIRE BULLS TEAM? seems fair.

yeah, just saw that line from billups. he might just force his way to a contender (i assume miami, to stick it to the NYK).

lol c'mon dawg

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Billups: "People take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with (getting claimed). I won’t be OK with this."

lmao some shit team should claim him just cause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZTNgAs4Fc&ob=av3n

I hope one of the teams that need to make salary floor claim him and park him on the bench as he rots away his last good year.