J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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the contracts that are being handed out right now are so amazing. These fucking moron owners will never learn!

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

need a lockout

pandemic, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

somebody needs to save the owners from themselves

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

I love Nene and I've always said he's underrated. But maxing out Nene is ludicrous.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

agreed, agreed, agreed

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

think it just speaks to the massive undersupply of talent in the NBA - if teams weren't desperate for big men or there were just fewer teams...

contraction

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

thaddeus young for 5/42 for thaddeus young seems v reasonable tho, dude is a baller

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

been in the league four years w/ a career PER of 16 and is only 22

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

like if you think you have a shot to win a chip or go deep in the playoffs but you need a big man, and the best guy out there is raef lafrentz, you're gonna max out raef lafrentz i guess

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

I agree with that somewhat, but 99% of the time these deals are handed out by bad teams that are a mile away from contention (like the Nets with Nene).

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

if the Rockets had maxed out nene after a Gasol deal I would have been down with that.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah nene is awesome but he better be no better than the third best player on your team if you want to make a run at something serious

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

what is denver gonna do w/o nene and w/ 1/3 of their rotation the central plot of 'rush hour 4'

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

you shouldn't ever max out on a player like nene is the thing

k3vin k., Friday, 9 December 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

what is denver gonna do w/o nene and w/ 1/3 of their rotation the central plot of 'rush hour 4'

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 5:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

I would just do a pu pu platter of 3rd tier fas I liked. No reason to overspend on anyone. Wait a year and then sign Wilson Chandler.

apparently they weren't really interested in bringing back JR or Kenyon anyway.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

Okay hollinger's already pretty much said my feelings for me above (thanks kev) but man brandon retiring is some sad shit especially because dude is like 4 years younger than me and could run unopposed for mayor in Portland. I'm happy he's not pushing himself into disability -- I'm happy medicine and reason exists to save athletes from that at all these days -- and if it puts the blazers in a place to sign a max guy next year well bravo. But man the shakes this franchise has gotten in the past few years. What's been just straight up sadder in prof sports?

tldr: ;_;

clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

I have never seen anything remotely like Brandon Roy playing on those knees last year. It was shocking to see a player drag a leg around through multiple nba games like that.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

I vividly recall Roy taking a charge, and as he fell he kept his legs straight in the air because he didn't want to feel the pain of his legs hitting the the ground.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

And he's *27* I mean I just feel awful for him

clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah ;_;

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

tbf it makes cosmic sense that pdx's team was young and amped to take the world and ended up just emo and retiring before 30

clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

people spreading the (likely to be true eventually in the near future) rumors about Dwight leaving and everybody's already ganging up on him here in Orlando. it's like they don't remember the infamous Sentinel poll that alienated Shaq.

it's amazing that Orlando fans feel entitled to Dwight without actually, y'know, going to games or anything. even in success and with a new arena they have trouble selling out games.

if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

did I or anybody else ever use the "B. Roy Will B. Roy" fantasy league team name last year?

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

Jason Quick: Breaking: Blazers determine center Greg Oden has suffered setback, and restructure his one-year deal for a lesser amount about 5 minutes ago

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

Since when can you restructure a qualifying offer?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I don't get it

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

maybe the setback is so horrible that oden and his agent feel like no one would sign him so they'll take whatever they can get.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

i.e. they're worried about the contract being voided due to a failed physical?

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

Really Oden should just be retiring, this is absurd.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

What was I just saying abt this franchise and sadness

clay, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

If he's injured at the time of the signing, how can he fail his physical for being injured? I get if another team kicked the tires and said no thanks, but Portland has been managing his frailitude since he entered the league.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

And a qualifying offer amount is decided by the league based on tenure and draft placement. It isn't negotiated in the first place.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

david stern should just give chris paul to portland

dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

If he's injured at the time of the signing, how can he fail his physical for being injured? I get if another team kicked the tires and said no thanks, but Portland has been managing his frailitude since he entered the league.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, December 9, 2011 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah I really don't understand. Maybe they examined him and there was a little window of time where they could have pulled the offer before he could officially sign it and they negotiated.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

so apparently the league has told the Hornets that they need to get younger players and draft picks to make a deal acceptable. Why not just get a 4th team involved who will give up picks/young players for scola/martin/odom?

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Following Greg's most recent physical examination and evaluation, we've determined that he has suffered a setback," said Trail Blazers President Larry Miller. "We're hopeful, but less confident that he will return to the court this season. We've stood by Greg from the day he was drafted and we continue to do so now with this agreement."

Lol rip

clay, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

LaMarcus Aldridge has mysteriously not completed his physical.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe Oden really is the 50 year old man we all thought he looked like at the time

mayor jingleberriez, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

my Oden theory is that he has gigantism and they're covering it up.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

^^I'm aware this is a silly conspiracy theory.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

you guys know I use the same doctors as the trailblazers right

kinda afraid if I went in today they'd be like "sorry dude it's leukemia we did our best"

clay, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

it's so painful that of the 3, larue martin was the healthy one.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

god, make that 4, counting walton.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

it's not like greg oden would be the first person in the NBA to have been suspected of gigantism

http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/Gheorge-Muresan.jpg

dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

Conflicting reports now on BRoy's retirement (which hasn't been announced by Broy, so still suspect). Sad as it would be, I kind of hope he'll do it, for the sake of the knees and his future ability to walk to the mailbox without debilitating pain.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

it kills me that Gheorghe only had 2 good years in the nba before the injuries set in. He's probably my favorite center ever.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just marveling at that jacket/tie/shirt combo

dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

fashion options for 7'7 guys are prob. pretty limited in Romania.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

I remember there was a Bulls-Bullets game where rodman and gheorghe mixed it up and almost got in a fight and then after the game they bro'd out and laughed about it. miss u Gheorghe

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/My_giant_poster.jpg/220px-My_giant_poster.jpg

never forget

clay, Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link


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