a-ham isn't on spotify but i am curious -- is it like anthony hamilton doing what he always does really well or is it actually something new for him in any way?
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
"a-ham"! i am curious abt the answet to mr. stevenson's question too btw
― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Friday, 9 December 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
It feels pretty new to me. It's a much more contemporary record, by his standards. Everything about it, from the songwriting to the production, is just so immediate. Definitely the best soul record I've heard all year.
― Evan R., Friday, 9 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
man i'm so excited to listen to that and the a-ham when i actually have time
― k3vin k., Friday, December 9, 2011 2:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
Gonna give ear to these this weekend for sure.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 9 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
omfg you know how we've been bitching about the shitty mp3 quality of the dawn richard mixtape all year? she only went and uploaded the 320s at some point this year and didn't tell anyone - literally just discovered by chance now http://dawnrichardblog.com/
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
niiice
― k3vin k., Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
don't think it was the mp3 quality - think it was the mixing/mastering? are these mixed or mastered any differently?
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, but from streaming (not downloading) these sound just as shitty ;_;
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the downloaded ones will be better idk
Why would lex care about this? Confusing
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
Love this smooth CJ Hilton tune "Cold Summer":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn4jAkt43LA
― Tim F, Saturday, 10 December 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:54 PM (43 minutes ago)
it was literally hard to hear some of the parts of these songs
― k3vin k., Saturday, 10 December 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah in the dynamic range compression thread he thought we were all being babies
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
CJ Hilton has killed it this year w/ singles.
That CJ Hilton song is one J. Cole verse short of being "All I Want Is You."
― Evan R., Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
are my posts just really unclear or is it deej's reading comprehension? dynamic range compression and mp3 quality are not the same thing. i can't deal with mp3s under 192 kpbs
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
btw, Miguel just played the Shrine in Chicago which is a big venue here for soul & hip-hop artists, and apparently Miguel wants to work with Pete Rock so I saw the shrine's twitter linking them up yesterday. i know pete rock has made some questionable collaborative decisions but imo it would be dope to see him getting involved in the 90s retro R&B thing, esp since it feels so much more vibrant than any retro 90s hip-hop thing has been in a minute
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
dayo just implied that it looks to be a mastering issue, not an mp3 issue, but if you don't see how these could BOTH affect sound quality, you're the one w/ reading comprehension issues
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Ah! He was in Chicago and I missed it! I would have made the drive had I known; I've wanted to see him all year... all the live performance clips I've seen from him have looked awesome
― Evan R., Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf5tBt9hB8s
I mean, that's just the soundcheck
― Evan R., Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
dayo hadn't actually heard the 320 kpbs when he typed that o_0
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
I know I have cloth-ears b/c aside from happily listening to low bit rate radio sets, my only conscious response to the apparently-unlistenable poor quality of the Dawn Richard album is to turn up the volume on my earphones.
This is why while I agree with lex that dynamic range comprehension doesn't really bother me I decided long ago not to have a dog in that fight, my opinion is inherently unreliable.
― Tim F, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i've listened to low-bitrate & poorly compressed stuff; I do have to overlook it though, consciously; part of my enjoyment of it is almost like, I'm hearing what the song could have been with better mastering
sometimes its so bad that I can't listen at all, but that happens more often in genres (pop punk, red hot chili peppers) that I don't really listen to
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
i love good quality shit
― surm, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
i'm like "this sounds so clean"
― surm, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
the only example i can think of right now where one is engineered like soup and the other sounds pristine is the LEP Bogus Boys record vs. the freddie gibbs record. I'm predisposed to prefer the former but the Gibbs record just sounds better because of the mastering. that's all there is to it; it can make or break records, imo
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
anyone who doubts that it affects how experience the music should listen to those back to back & tell me honestly that the LEP wouldnt sound a hundred times better with better mastering
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
I honestly couldn't get into this cos of the quality. Will give the new version a go
― Number None, Saturday, 10 December 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
u go girl!
― surm, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
love "cold summer"
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
just downloaded the 320kbps issue - it's definitely a mastering issue, these sound exactly the same as the ones I have on my iphone
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
or idk I'll give the new set a listen when I get home on my good headphones - feel like it's the old songs tho
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
also lol @ the idea of telling the difference between 128 kbps and 320 kbps from a macbook sound out - it's in yer head dude
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
esp if you spend all your time in nightclubs w/ nightclub sound systems
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
they sound completely different to me. you can actually hear the bass, everything sounds crisper
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
what song sounds like an improvement to the old version?
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is totally wrong btw
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
i mean if you played some random song out of a computer it would be hard to just guess the kbps off your head, but if you play a true 128 vs a true 320 out of a computer (through decent speakers/headphones) the difference is p obvious
― v-shasty, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't downloaded this exact thing tho
"vibrate" and "bulletproof" were the ones i played
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
haha those were the two I played too - I couldn't hear a diff between my laptop out and my iphone out. but I'll go home and check again w/ my DAC/amp and nice big headphones
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
i prob couldn't tell just off macbook speakers either, my macbook's plugged into proper speakers though
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:23 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
yeah it is
― surm, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
128 to 320 is noticeable on laptop speaks but 192 to 320, theres no way
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
I'm listening through earphones!
I mean I guess it's possible that overall there's more lowend/highs in the 320kbps version. but it still sounds like a mixtape that needs mastering - like compare the 320 kbps 'vibrate' or 'bulletproof' to 'ass on the floor' or any of the tracks from LTTP, bet you there's a huge difference
― dayo, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol well - if there's ever a ILX R&B fap we'll do some double blind A/B testing w/ your computers and headphones and you tell me
okay I'm listening on my nice headphone setup at home - there is little to no difference, maybe the bass is fuller (probably more amplified on speakers)
but if you could do a double-blind test and accurately pick out the 320 over the 160 original, I'm impressed
what this really needs is a proper mastering
like switching from this (the 320) to like, idk, pretty girl rock or something, the difference is stark
― dayo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r87cBCHW34&fmt=18
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
― uberweiss, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
the dawn richard still sounds awful, it's a good record though
― sisilafami, Sunday, 11 December 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
i listened to it on headphones on the bus last night, dayo and i are both right - it is def crisper and bassier than the version she uploaded originally but yes, it still basically sounds unmastered :(
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link