Blah blah blah SB is an infringement of my human rights blah blah

seriously clicking at the empty space next to permalink by your name 50 times in a row

u seem v angry!

some ppl may withhold donations unless assured that SB will not exist in the future, who knows!

― k3vin k., Friday, December 9, 2011 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lollin at the idea of k3v waving a $5 bill and looking very stern like "well, if you don't get of SB I'm just not going to support you guys in the future"

oh yeah sb is v funny but i don't think it should result in a ban, should be like a poke or something

exactly this, it's funny to talk about and make references too but as I mentioned above I highly doubt people have ever thought "man I'm glad that guy's gone for the next 4 weeks", its like get over yaselves people

i have thought that about almost every single person who has been SBed. that's the whole point of SBing people is making them go away for a while.

vindictive too!

some ppl may withhold donations unless assured that SB will not exist in the future, who knows!

― k3vin k., Friday, December 9, 2011 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lollin at the idea of k3v waving a $5 bill and looking very stern like "well, if you don't get of SB I'm just not going to support you guys in the future"

― dayo, Friday, December 9, 2011 1:48 PM (1 hour ago)

haha yeah it's a lol concept but i shall be at peace w/ myself first & foremost, won't be a part of this obamanation of justice

On behalf of my other posters, thank you for being a shining light and a fine example of modesty and restraint. Your courage inspires, literally, millions.

i somehow accidentally bookmarked this thread

*removes bookmark from thread*

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KvDFauTmm3g/S8hqKXUHDgI/AAAAAAAAAx8/t2AF7ZQl9vw/s1600/animals-at-computer-04.jpg

i need not even accept your thanks, i hope my earnestness up til now speaks for itself xxp

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oTM4yEhEgtA/S9Z567448wI/AAAAAAAABmg/faO_uVIWKKc/s1600/cat-on-computer.jpg

haha yeah it's a lol concept but i shall be at peace w/ myself first & foremost, won't be a part of this obamanation of justice

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_q7OcrV30g/Su7WzfKjkGI/AAAAAAAACNQ/RS-8C7e_uo8/s400/cute-bunny-computer-500.jpg

that husky is me irl - how'd you get dat pic?

I highly doubt people have ever thought "man I'm glad that guy's gone for the next 4 weeks", its like get over yaselves people

Yeah sorry I'm with n/a here, in at least a few cases I've thought exactly this. Or at least "maybe now they can cool the fuck off" if said person is being meltdown central and wont listen to reason - it doesnt always have to be a vindictive thing (cf Bimble for eg)

That said I think I've maybe sb'ed one reg and one or 2 trolls.

Holy crap, the Giants are going to win?

I turned this game off after the Manning interception.

it doesnt always have to be a vindictive thing (cf Bimble for eg)

I am actually smDh at this.

uh yeah what the hell

maybe some scattered dicks had pressed the button vindictively in the previous six months, that doesn't mean the huge cluster of ppl asking Bimble to chill out and stop shouting and refrain from bombing multiple threads THAT NIGHT were in any way maliciously motivated

I'm sure they weren't. Really. (honest)

Just, that's a really bad example.

it is, tbh

yeah I think Bimble is probably argument #1, 2, & 3 against sb

(I of course was not around on ILX when that happened though so)

iirc Bimble was mod-banned that night, not SB'd. just sayin'.

yeah didnt know. nm.

iirc Bimble was mod-banned that night, not SB'd. just sayin'.

― sleeve sandbox, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:15 AM (1 minute ago)

i don't think this is true. and if it is, it was because he was on the verge of being SB'd

i was ambivalent toward SB before that but when a prominent, likeable, and ultimately harmless (not to mention severely depressed) poster was SB'd, mentioned to at least one poster via email that being banned deeply upset him, and eventually killed himself, that was pretty much the turning point for me.

i'm not saying SB directly led to bimble's suicide. but i couldn't remember whether i was one of those 51 people or not, and i still feel like absolute dogshit to think i could have had something to do with it

You wouldn't believe it by the way you continue to treat posters around here like shit.

^^^

mentioned to at least one poster via email that being banned deeply upset him

also wrong iirc

guyz

He mentioned it to me, actually, but I don't blame the existence of SB on what happened subsequently.

i am basically ambivalent about sbing, or not excited enough one way or the other to post about it, but you would think this thread, on this sb-free board, would make some kind of persuasive case for one side of the argument

Yeah I think we should leave bimble out of this thread from now on, its such a weird thing to bring into this and I'm regretting even tangentially contributing to it. It was just the idea of k3vin feeling guilty for anything was pretty lol to me.

He told chatz last week that he didn't mind being banned for a month and he enjoyed the time off ilx. He did say he didnt know if he would come back straight away. Now sadly we will never know.
His personal problems had nothing to do with ilx. But his friends on ilx did help him in the past. He was always appreciative of that.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009

stfu k3vin

whoops, read alfred's post sleeve

again i'm not directly linking the two

^^ seriously, jeez kevin

xp

what bimble said to chatz vs what he said to ilxors on mail vs guys srsly

yeah um the possiblility that Bimble was modbanned makes me feel v uncomfortable with what I posted upthread.

I'm really sorry.

I made myself a promise that I would never, ever get into this again, but here I am anyway.

I'm only back on ILX in the sandbox because there is no SB here. Which means that I actually feel comfortable again ~talking~ to people, joking with people, asking questions about music, trying to be supportive to friends going through a rough time - knowing that I will not be penalised at random, with an awful sword of damocles hanging over my head.

Because that *fear*, it doesn't stop my freakouts when I think I've been insulted, it doesn't stop my manic episodes (and it certainly doesn't stop clusterfucks *about* me) - but it DOES stop me from having sensitive conversations with people, which I fear will be misinterpreted and penalised without explanation.

You guys talk a lot about how you think SB ~should~ function and spend very little time listening to people who have been SB'd multiple times, and how it affects our behaviour - and how it doesn't. To me, this just comes off like a bunch of Republicans talking about how Abstinence Only sex ed really *should* stop teenagers from getting pregnant and being mystified that it somehow doesn't.

If the Sandbox was a massive open warfare between ppl relieved of the responsibility to be nice to one another, you might have an argument for keeping it. If anything, I see people forced to take responsibility for their own actions, and actually make the choice either ignore or engage with people.

But I've said this time and again, and been ignored, so I don't expect anyone to listen now. I'll enjoy this while it lasts, and go lurker again when you bring it back.

I'd like the question to be "If it never came back, would you miss it and to what extent?"

sb threads

sb isn't even on sandbox and we still have sb threads

yeah deems dont worry; when sb is gone we will have loads of threads clamoring for its return

lol 'BRING BACK SB YOU BASTARDS' can't you just see it

I'm with FT on this one. It does seem odd to chase away awesome old-skool posters because of SB. I know of people IRL who are mortified of ILX because of the threat of banning by posting anything that long-term posters disagree with.

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty. Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.

Not to defend SB, but large lurking contingents are the rule, not the exception: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)

Is there a way of SB-ing lurkers?

Not all of them btw, just the ones who lurk in an annoying way.

Ones that look at threads 'funny'?