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the rays just signed matt moore to a 5 yr, 14m contract o________________________________________O

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know he was a two-sport athlete!

cad, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

wow. how do the Rays keep getting away with this

I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

no idea

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

cubs traded tyler colvin and dj lamahieu to the rockies for ian stewart and casey weathers

n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

p good trade for the cubs -- both those guys are bad, stewart kinda sucks too but he could prob platoon vs righties

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

colvin was decent his rookie year but yeah sucked pretty hard last year, sounds like he and stewart are both question marks

n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Was reading this morning how that might open up a Martin Prado for Seth Smith(+) trade, but it's pure guesswork at this point.

William (C), Friday, 9 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

5yr/$14m is less than the average mlb salary!

mookieproof, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

i also heard reported they have (multiple?) club options after the 5 yrs

j crunchwrap supreme, Friday, 9 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

the a's are trading trevor cahill, for some reason

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

to the d-backs

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

what's the median salary these days?

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 10 December 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

it apparently was $1m three years ago, dunno about now

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

still in shock about this Pujols deal and than the Lakers stole the thunder for about a half an hour

i currently live in Anaheim

Bee, Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

i need a new team, the Giants did nothing to improve the offence and won't sign Beltran (and now looks like he could be had fairly cheaply)

Beltran for Wheeler, why? will be Brian Sabean's worst trade

Bee, Saturday, 10 December 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

Reigning NL MVP Ryan Braun has tested positive for a performance-enchancing drug: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7338271/ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-tests-positive-performance-enhancing-drug

Bee, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

Braun busted for PEDs!

sir thermo of thinwall, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

knew, even though i dislike the Dodgers, that Matt Kemp was the real winner of the NL MVP last year

Bee, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

Awful. Regardless of how seriously you take the issue--just bad for the game.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

bee did you always live in anaheim?

mayor jingleberriez, Sunday, 11 December 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

nope, i lived in San Francisco when i first heard about ilx

Bee, Sunday, 11 December 2011 07:29 (twelve years ago) link

We're 100% certain that Ryan Braun cheated and Matt Kemp did not, huh?

Andy K, Sunday, 11 December 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

keithlaw keithlaw
Ryan Braun's ISO in 2011 was .018 above his ISO over the prior four years, when he would have tested negative for PEDs at least six times.

Andy K, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think any of that changes that he's still a total idiot for taking them, or taking whatever he was taking that elevated his testosterone

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

Positive tests for sanctimony upcoming

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting point, improbably, from Olney:

Braun is the 2011 NL MVP and there is no precedent for that to be altered, even if he's suspended. The Baseball Writers Association of America has never stripped a winner of an award, including Alex Rodriguez, who has acknowledged using performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, when he won the AL MVP.

But that's a stance completely at odds with the writers' collective stance in the Hall of Fame balloting, in which voters have treated the history of Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, et al, as if it doesn't exist; they've stripped those players of the accomplishments of their entire careers -- and sometimes based on mere suspicion, as in the case of Jeff Bagwell.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ken Rosenthal
Source: Braun tested positive for a prohibited substance, not a performance-enhancing drug. More coming on FOXSports.com.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

STONER

Z S, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ryan-braun.jpg

Z S, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

totes

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

go listen to your workingman's dead someone where else, ryan braun - this is a family friendly town and we want nothing to do with your likes

Z S, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I hope that's the extent of it.

Olney is conflating a vote that's already happened, MVP, with one that hasn't, HOF. No HOF player has ever been removed from the Hall, and if a prospective MVP tested positive in late August or September, I think it's safe to say he would not go on to win the award. I don't see a parallel there. (And, as I've always said, I think caution in HOF voting--where there is ample time to revisit a player's candidacy--is sensible.)

clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

But my source -- and again, this is from Braun's end and not MLB -- familiar with the test's findings says the "prohibited substance" was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has "never" been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.

The source said MLB "knows that Ryan is telling the truth) and firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135405518.html

j crunchwrap supreme, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

"never"

j crunchwrap supreme, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

damn, i was hoping JS was, like, "jewish sentinel" or something

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

elevated levels of gefilte fish

j crunchwrap supreme, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

trace amts of blood in his LSD stream

William (C), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

i thought there was no way i could like braun more (of course, that affection nosedived when i heard he was using PEDs) but if it turns out he's a stoner... <3

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

y'all it's not gonna be a recreational drug

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

what's it going to be?

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

"the test's findings says the "prohibited substance" was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind"

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

i guess it could be some kind of medically treatment?

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

well idk i guess either report could be wrong at this point

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

i mean mlb hasn't actually said anything -- from what i can tell we just have dueling reports b/w espn & rosenthal

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

it would be an unusual turn of events tho -- my guess is that it will be some sort of "supplement" or something that's ambiguous enough for braun to escape heavy public scrutiny but not enough to get his appeal overturned

v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

if he's a stoner he's off my must-fuck list

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

plus if "there has 'never' been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program" it sure the hell ain't pot etc.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

# joe_sheehan
All this discussion of false positives and unfair leaks reminds of when A-Rod's anonymous test result came out. Only the exact opposite.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

i read that more as never before has a result like this been treated like this, but if you're right that it means never before has a test result ever been like this than i'd guess it's something medical related showing up

xp

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link


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