J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

haha. yep. well, bear in mind that bynum is the only other player discussed as the "centerpiece" going to the magic in exchange for howard.

if healthy for the long-haul, i'd take bynum over lopez, but that's a big if.

feel like some other teams are gonna be wanting in on this howard sweepstakes, like who doesnt want dwight howard

if only there were some other really good player that could be moved for him straight up

haha.

sorry, we are not trading eddy curry to orlando for dwight howard.

eddy curry is part of our long-term future plans.

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lol

mario chalmers staying with heat

mario chalmers @mchalmers15 -- Imma MIAMI HEAT player until they don't want me no more. Let's get this ring

I wonder how many of the traded players show up for training camp?

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 6:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

at this point it looks like at least paul and odom. oh and also chauncey lol.

Imma MIAMI HEAT player until they don't want me no more.

so... two weeks then?

o damn

damn, clay's gonna wake up to some shitty news

Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees, possibly as soon as today

haha. well, you're assuming something better will come along

(cough cough) chauncey billups (cough cough)

but that isn't really likely to happen, much as i want it to.

(xp)

Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees, possibly as soon as today

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 10:28 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

rip that sucks bigtime

good guy, great subtle mastermind type ball player, you were taken from us too soon

and the nba has no damn 2 guards anymore!

billups officially amnestied

that suxxx about roy

not sure there are that many teams under-the-cap, and thus entitled to bid for billups services. i'd guess that at least one of them would take him, if only to get something in trade when he forces his way to his preferred destination.

but i bet he'd like to go to the heat, for the chance to play against the NYK this year.

Is there a minimum bid - say, the veteran's minimum? Otherwise, someone could get an amnestied dude for like $1/year. Which is kind of great, come to think of it.

yeah, there's a vet/minimum.

but again, billups can create leverage for himself by announcing that he's going to be an unmotivated player and locker-room problem if he winds up in an undesriable situation.

he has done that already via his agent iirc

right; that's what i meant. i also figured that, with the passage of time and perhaps realizing his actual leverage was limited, he may soften his stance. so we'll see.

i mean, right now he's not being threatened with release by the NYK; he's actually been released by the NYK. so if his complaints were designed to deter that from happening, he failed and it's over.

awww brandon :(

so if a guy gets amnestied, the team pays him his contract but it doesn't go against the cap, correct? but what happens when he gets picked back up?

correct up to the last sentence, where i don't know.

btw, james jones returns to the heat

Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat -- Agent Joel Bell confirms to Sun Sentinel that James Jones has agreed to a three-year deal to return to the Heat.

so if a guy gets amnestied, the team pays him his contract but it doesn't go against the cap, correct? but what happens when he gets picked back up?

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 11:08 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

my understanding is if he gets picked up in the draft/wavier wire thing i dont know what to call mode then the team who picks him up pays some set amount of the contract while the original team pays the rest - if no one picks him up hes a free agent and his original team pays the entire contract

okay, that makes sense

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA -- Portland's Brandon Roy has been diagnosed with a "career-ending (knee) injury," league source confirms to Y! Sports. "He's done."

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Agent Mark Bartelstein said nixed LAL-HOU-NO deal was about the NBA exerting its control "of everything."
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im not quite sure what this means but i like how it sounds

I'm surprised Roy lasted as long as he did with his bum knees.

Thanks Broy. Enjoyed watching you play.

this whole Hornets ownership situation, how does it work
everything about this is stupid, that trade made sense for everyone

except for the hornets

are you kidding? the Hornets would have made out great on that!

yah cool give up a top five player, dont even get back the 2nd best guy in the trade!

and now you have team full of role players and a shitty draft pick!

you know who was psyched abt that trade: houston

Still way better than losing in the first round of the playoffs and then having nothing for next season. I'm not sure what you expected them to get for him.

well just off the top of my head they couldve traded him for pau gasol

but like they have three months to trade him, this deal wouldve still been there, why because they were getting fleeced

the whole better than losing him in the off season argument is a total straw man

i don't feel like theyd be a serious contender w/ Gasol either
also I'm not sure they get a better deal if they sit on him for 3 months

Isn't their something about 6 months with a team for Bird rights in the new CBA? I remember it being discussed. If so, then he loses the chance at an extra 20 million dollars if he's traded after the New Year.

Which is why he might sue. They could cost him a ton of money.

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Billy Hunter tells Bloomberg that he anticipates Chris Paul will be in training camp. As for lawsuit: ``Not at this moment.'' #NBA
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Billy Hunter: ``we've got to is look at the circumstances and investigate it further.'' #NBA
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Billy Hunter tells Bloomberg he's waiting to hear from Chris Paul. Probably talk with NBA later today. #NBA
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David Stern talking to Bloomberg's @masonlev #NBA
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Stern: ``I don't want to speak on the basketball side, but that particular one was weighed against Chris Paul's continued presence in NO.''
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As for other trades, Stern says ``I'll leave that to the team as the discussion goes on.''
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`The decision was taken that Chris Paul in New Orleans was more valuable than the trade that was being discussed,David Stern tells Bloomberg
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maybe the league will force the hornets to trade paul into NBA pergatory, e.g., the raptors or cavs.

generally deals get better as the trade deadline approaches, obvs theres no guarantee, and theres literally nothing they could do this year that would make them a contender, what any team wants when they are forced to move a superstar and go into rebuilding mode is some combo of good young players, quality draft picks, and cap relief, they got none of those things!