J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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according to a writer for hoopsworld who seems to know his shit, the trade was nullified through the commissioner's veto power, not through an ownership role. In order to prevent collusion a governor was appointed to approve all financials (Jac Sperling) and he did so.

https://twitter.com/#!/EricPincus/status/145081557122682880

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

hm. if that's the case, it is crazy. clearly, smaller-market owners (e.g., dan gilbert) were furious about the "competitive balance" issues in big-markets creating "superteams."

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

damn, shit went ham itt

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

hey while y'all wer arguing about the minutia of the Knicks pick, u completely ignored the fact that mr chuklebutt holds all the cards bc cp3 is a franchise player and unless u get one in return the trade sucks from a business perspective even if it wast horrible for basketball

owners are pissed bc they're tired of the cycle of lakers getting what they want bc they always have the pieces/resources to make it happen, trade nullification is a legit interest to the league and the hornets bc without a franchise face, they have no reason to exist (remember: only six people live in new Orleans now)

q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Friday, 9 December 2011 12:19 (twelve years ago) link

but the alternative to trading cp3 is him leaving in a year and the franchise being destroyed. This was a good deal for a guy who is definitely leaving you in a year.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder how many of the traded players show up for training camp?

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

remember when they traded kwame brown for pau gasol

remember

dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

LAMAR ODOM @RealLamarOdom

When a team trades u and it doesn't go down? Now what?

Carnitas, Friday, 9 December 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

lol just when we thought we had it back the league is disintegrating before our eyes, where tf is diwght howard going, i fear what morning may bring

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol <3 u guys but you really should go to bed earlier

cad, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

if we went to bed earlier, we would have missed the trade, the un-trade, the CP3 reaction, the gilbert email, the odom reaction, the . . .

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . .

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

(yawn).

oh, morning. i had this bizzare dream where the heat signed eddy curry. lol.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

I went to bed. It was nice. Though I'm sorry I missed the "mid-round/18-20/u suck at math" kerfuffle.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Carnitas, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

practice down in el Segundo won’t be awkward at for the lakes

Carnitas, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

im sry i was clearly quite drunk, i went to bed three hours ago, just woke up thinking it was like noon and had to check back in, my god

it was a really terrible trade tho, dan gilbert otm re salaries even if he did use comic sans

it would be p funny if the lakers just ended up getting howard instead

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

it would be p funny if the lakers just ended up getting howard instead

not looking like they will . . .

Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops -- Dwight Howard is reportedly going to ask for a trade to the Nets, unless things suddenly change. Which can happen.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol

In light of the league's refusal to allow Chris Paul to dictate a trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, one has to wonder if it will sit idly by and let Howard facilitate a move to the Nets.

if the nba won't let a star player move to the NEW JERSEY NETS, who WILL they let him move to?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

i sympathize w/players wanting to force trades to certain places and all but its really starting to be kinda a downer

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

good question

Ethan Skolnick @EthanJSkolnick -- If the half of the players who didn't bother to vote on the new CBA were given another chance to vote now, how would they vote?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

theyd prob vote wtf is going on right now

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

this is crazy

smh, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

lol who are the nets suposed to trade for howard

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

johnhollinger John Hollinger
Breaking: The NBA is changing its name to Venezuela.
4 minutes ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

haha did hollinger just sort of make a successful funny, i cant even tell anymore

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

johnhollinger John Hollinger
One other thing about Gilbert letter: He doesn't appear to understand the difference between revenue sharing and the luxury tax.
50 seconds ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

nullify all future trades, contract the hornets and magic after this season problem solved

smh, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

haha, yes he did make a joke.

nets will trade lopez and other stuff for howard.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

nullify all future trades, contract the hornets and magic after this season problem solved

― smh, Friday, December 9, 2011

add cavs and . . . hm.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

nets will trade lopez and other stuff for howard.

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, December 9, 2011 9:04 AM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

now that would make the paul trade look quite reasonable in comparison

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

haha. yep. well, bear in mind that bynum is the only other player discussed as the "centerpiece" going to the magic in exchange for howard.

if healthy for the long-haul, i'd take bynum over lopez, but that's a big if.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

feel like some other teams are gonna be wanting in on this howard sweepstakes, like who doesnt want dwight howard

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

if only there were some other really good player that could be moved for him straight up

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

haha.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

sorry, we are not trading eddy curry to orlando for dwight howard.

eddy curry is part of our long-term future plans.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

KBergCBS Ken Berger
As soon as union reformed and new CBA passed, thus shielding league from antitrust law, first thing it did was restrict interstate commerce.
44 minutes ago

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol

cad, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

mario chalmers staying with heat

mario chalmers @mchalmers15 -- Imma MIAMI HEAT player until they don't want me no more. Let's get this ring

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder how many of the traded players show up for training camp?

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 6:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

at this point it looks like at least paul and odom. oh and also chauncey lol.

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Imma MIAMI HEAT player until they don't want me no more.

so... two weeks then?

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

o damn

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

damn, clay's gonna wake up to some shitty news

Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees, possibly as soon as today

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

haha. well, you're assuming something better will come along

(cough cough) chauncey billups (cough cough)

but that isn't really likely to happen, much as i want it to.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

(xp)

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees, possibly as soon as today

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 10:28 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

rip that sucks bigtime

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

good guy, great subtle mastermind type ball player, you were taken from us too soon

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

and the nba has no damn 2 guards anymore!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

billups officially amnestied

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

that suxxx about roy

amon, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

not sure there are that many teams under-the-cap, and thus entitled to bid for billups services. i'd guess that at least one of them would take him, if only to get something in trade when he forces his way to his preferred destination.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link


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