J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

what r the nets going to trade for howard exactly, curious

lopez and picks presumably (FIRST ROUNDERS)

actually worse case scenario is both of their perpetually injured big men bite the dust and they're left with carmelo and a bunch of guys who would get laughed out of the rucker

even tho i was shitting on brook lopez earlier, i would prob take him over bynum if i had to make that trade

brook lopez and some russain whores, good thing david stern doesnt own the magic

i don't think he's better, but i wouldn't take on the risk of bynum

btw can we just digress for a second and talk about how andrew bynum's knees are going to turn into tissue paper w/ this schedule? imagine bynum in game 5 of the nba finals this year? his knee ligaments may actually explode out of his body.

even tho i was shitting on brook lopez earlier, i would prob take him over bynum if i had to make that trade

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:00 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

if you cant get better than either of those dudes for the 2nd best player in the nba just choke yrself

sebastian telfair got taken over al jefferson, josh smith, j.r. smith and jameer nelson

btw can we just digress for a second and talk about how andrew bynum's knees are going to turn into tissue paper w/ this schedule? imagine bynum in game 5 of the nba finals this year? his knee ligaments may actually explode out of his body.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:01 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

when i heard abt the paul trade i was loling at the prospect of the top 3 lakers players being injured

sebastian telfair got taken over al jefferson, josh smith, j.r. smith and jameer nelson

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:02 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

i DO recall this

if you cant get better than either of those dudes for the 2nd best player in the nba just choke yrself

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:02 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol this is pretty much what the CEO of the magic did, except replace "choke yourself" with "get drunk one night and sabotage your career"

was traded for the pick that became brandon roy i remember for some ODD REASON wtf

i know i've driven the convo off course here, but it's hilarious how every time an int'l player gets drafted in the second round everyone is like "ah, could be a nice stash pick yada yada" look at this cast of characters all drafted in the second round of the 04 draft

Peter John Ramos
Albert Miralles
Viktor Sanikidze
Ha Seung-Jin
Sergei Lishouk
Vassilis Spanoulis
Christian Drejer
Romain Sato
Matt Freije
Sergei Karaulov

I have a lot of things to say about PJ Ramos

ginobili was drafted w/the last pick of the second round iirc, lol still

http://i.imgur.com/kAs91.png

found a lil tell here, note the author

Hollinger thought the Lakers overpaid.

i wouldve thought it was not the best but a reasonable trade if the 2nd best player had gone to nola, its houstons role thats really baffling

gasol is the only other player who has any value!

very few people agree with you about that

Scola has value man, come on.

Yes, this was offset with a monumental upgrade at point guard, but look at the big picture. Pau-for-Paul is pretty much an even swap.

luv hollinger but this is crazy talk

it boggles my mind that you think chandler is an all-star but Scola has no value.

the hornets were very clearly taking the nuggets road to success of putting guys together and seeing what happens

adding pau to the hornets doesn't do anything for them

very few people agree with you about that

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

hey most people still think kobes the best player in the nba

yeah I'm just saying don't hold out hope that guys like adande are gonna be the ones disagreeing with you

Scola is a really good player man. I disagree with you about Martin but at least I understand. But Scola is just obviously a good player.

it boggles my mind that you think chandler is an all-star but Scola has no value.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:13 AM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

chandler is an all star, like he played on an all star team, i never said scola doesnt have value, i have been a long time scola supporter on this v message board as a matter of fact, its martin who i think sucks, but a 31 y/o journey man is not the guy a rebuilding team needs

hes just liek a solid dude aka inconsequential in a trade for a top 5 player

he's not a journeyman in any sense of the word.

hes like a journeyman+, hes not a game changer, he couldnt be the 3rd best player on a championship team, he could be prob the 5th best player on a championship team, i like him, he does his thing w/great aplomb, hes v crafty, chis paul is one of the great point gards to ever play the game

when did Chandler play on an all-star team?

answer: in high school

oops my bad i thought he did but he did not, anyway last year i wouldve picked him, hes one of the best defenders in the L!

07/08 he was sick in nola too!

i mean chris kaman made the team last year be serious!

and tim duncan

but w/e im going to bed, h8 u guys, welcome back nba xo

sorry if this has already been posted, but dan gilbert's email to david stern, urging him to block the lakers/CP3 trade, is priceless:

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.

with best personal regards, danny g.

according to a writer for hoopsworld who seems to know his shit, the trade was nullified through the commissioner's veto power, not through an ownership role. In order to prevent collusion a governor was appointed to approve all financials (Jac Sperling) and he did so.

https://twitter.com/#!/EricPincus/status/145081557122682880

hm. if that's the case, it is crazy. clearly, smaller-market owners (e.g., dan gilbert) were furious about the "competitive balance" issues in big-markets creating "superteams."

damn, shit went ham itt

hey while y'all wer arguing about the minutia of the Knicks pick, u completely ignored the fact that mr chuklebutt holds all the cards bc cp3 is a franchise player and unless u get one in return the trade sucks from a business perspective even if it wast horrible for basketball

owners are pissed bc they're tired of the cycle of lakers getting what they want bc they always have the pieces/resources to make it happen, trade nullification is a legit interest to the league and the hornets bc without a franchise face, they have no reason to exist (remember: only six people live in new Orleans now)

but the alternative to trading cp3 is him leaving in a year and the franchise being destroyed. This was a good deal for a guy who is definitely leaving you in a year.

I wonder how many of the traded players show up for training camp?

remember when they traded kwame brown for pau gasol

remember

LAMAR ODOM @RealLamarOdom

When a team trades u and it doesn't go down? Now what?

lol just when we thought we had it back the league is disintegrating before our eyes, where tf is diwght howard going, i fear what morning may bring