J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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the knicks are a legit playoff team, if they have injury problems they are not, like the other playoff teams

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link

20th draft pick

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:48 AM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

dude wtf.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

this can be said abt every team in the league and you know it

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:49 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark

heat, celtics, bulls, hawks could all have an injury to one of their top 2 players and easily beat out the sixers

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

kevin martin is widely known as the worst defender in the nba

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

it could be as low as 18th if they're the 5th seed.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

5+5=10

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

20-18=2

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

8+4=12

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

if the 8 western playoff teams had better records they would pick 18th.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

omg its could be anywhere between 18 and 20! what a magnificent draft pick! i bet a lot of great players have been taken there!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

why dont u do some research as far as the quality of those spots!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

dude you're the one who brought up math and then couldn't add.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

here's what could easily happen to the knicks this year -- howard gets his trade to the nets, amar'e has to miss 20 games, the pacers make good on their free agent signings and jump up two spots, and the sixers stay the same from last year

hmm what does that look like?

1 heat
2 bulls
3 celtics
4 nets
5 hawks
6 pacers
7 sixers
8 knicks

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

it could be 18 it could be 20 do you see

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

no you said that 5th seed in east = 20th.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

honestly you can get pretty good players in that range

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

you mocked me for saying they could pick 18th, then said they'd be the 5th pick in the east.... which could be 18th.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances, hey maybe kevin martin will learn how to rebound pass and defend, think abt this what if this happened

1 knicks
2 bulls
3 celtics
4 nets
5 hawks
6 pacers
7 sixers
8 heat

now what

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

you mocked me for saying they could pick 18th, then said they'd be the 5th pick in the east.... which could be 18th.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:55 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

5th in the east could be the 20th pick, it could also be the 18th pick, they both suck

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

but you said that me saying they'd pick 17th or 18th showed I "couldn't do math." and then you put them right in that range!

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

eric bledsoe, ty lawson, javale mcgee, jj hickson, roy hibbert, nick young, sean williams, rajon rondo, danny granger, hakeem warrick, josh smith, j.r. smith, jameer nelson

i mean these range from stars to very solid role players

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

well to be fair i said neither you or jordan could do math

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances

i made a trade based on a report that dwight howard wants to go to the nets! i mean, it's certainly something for the knicks to be worried about. i'm not sure why we should pretend that it couldn't happen.

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

also i was using jordan prediction abt the knicks finishing position as an argument, i expect them to finish higher than the hawks

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

my projection is obv a worse case scenario but it's also entirely probable

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

what r the nets going to trade for howard exactly, curious

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

lopez and picks presumably (FIRST ROUNDERS)

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

actually worse case scenario is both of their perpetually injured big men bite the dust and they're left with carmelo and a bunch of guys who would get laughed out of the rucker

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

even tho i was shitting on brook lopez earlier, i would prob take him over bynum if i had to make that trade

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

brook lopez and some russain whores, good thing david stern doesnt own the magic

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think he's better, but i wouldn't take on the risk of bynum

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

btw can we just digress for a second and talk about how andrew bynum's knees are going to turn into tissue paper w/ this schedule? imagine bynum in game 5 of the nba finals this year? his knee ligaments may actually explode out of his body.

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:01 (twelve years ago) link

even tho i was shitting on brook lopez earlier, i would prob take him over bynum if i had to make that trade

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:00 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

if you cant get better than either of those dudes for the 2nd best player in the nba just choke yrself

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

sebastian telfair got taken over al jefferson, josh smith, j.r. smith and jameer nelson

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

btw can we just digress for a second and talk about how andrew bynum's knees are going to turn into tissue paper w/ this schedule? imagine bynum in game 5 of the nba finals this year? his knee ligaments may actually explode out of his body.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:01 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

when i heard abt the paul trade i was loling at the prospect of the top 3 lakers players being injured

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

sebastian telfair got taken over al jefferson, josh smith, j.r. smith and jameer nelson

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:02 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

i DO recall this

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

if you cant get better than either of those dudes for the 2nd best player in the nba just choke yrself

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:02 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol this is pretty much what the CEO of the magic did, except replace "choke yourself" with "get drunk one night and sabotage your career"

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

was traded for the pick that became brandon roy i remember for some ODD REASON wtf

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

i know i've driven the convo off course here, but it's hilarious how every time an int'l player gets drafted in the second round everyone is like "ah, could be a nice stash pick yada yada" look at this cast of characters all drafted in the second round of the 04 draft

Peter John Ramos
Albert Miralles
Viktor Sanikidze
Ha Seung-Jin
Sergei Lishouk
Vassilis Spanoulis
Christian Drejer
Romain Sato
Matt Freije
Sergei Karaulov

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:07 (twelve years ago) link

I have a lot of things to say about PJ Ramos

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

ginobili was drafted w/the last pick of the second round iirc, lol still

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/kAs91.png

found a lil tell here, note the author

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hollinger thought the Lakers overpaid.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldve thought it was not the best but a reasonable trade if the 2nd best player had gone to nola, its houstons role thats really baffling

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:10 (twelve years ago) link

gasol is the only other player who has any value!

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link

very few people agree with you about that

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link

Scola has value man, come on.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, this was offset with a monumental upgrade at point guard, but look at the big picture. Pau-for-Paul is pretty much an even swap.

luv hollinger but this is crazy talk

Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

it boggles my mind that you think chandler is an all-star but Scola has no value.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

the hornets were very clearly taking the nuggets road to success of putting guys together and seeing what happens

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link


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