i mean look you aren't getting even value back for paul. or anything close to it. i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on. the package he got was pretty good, it could've even competed for an 8 seed depending on who else they signed.
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
rondo for paul straight up is better than this deal, and thats not a good deal
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on.
remember what happened to denver after melo left? they basically didn't lose for the rest of the year. getting rid of the soap opera that will be chris paul's season on the hornets, especially now, would be smart. too bad stern won't let them do that!
― clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
you guys are horrible at math
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
― clay, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:40 AM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
totally its all a big narrative, doesnt matter if you end up w/the worst team in the nba
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
you could make the argument for rondo, sure -- i think you could also easily make the argument that for as good as rondo is, he's very much a product of a team that has a bunch of lights out shooters and he wouldn't be that amazing on a bunch of other teams.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
I met gasol once at a restaurant
― good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 9 December 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:40 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
No, we think the Knicks will be a 5-8th seed in the East and thus it will be a mid-roundish pick.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link
look at the knicks record after they got amere and melo, now add another allstar, ffs
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:43 (twelve years ago) link
wait, the knicks got another all star
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
LOL Chandler the allstar
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
chandler is legit!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
rondo is not a good deal, the hornets can do better, hold on to paul until the trade deadline, omg not media scrutiny what will we do!
Did you mean Mcdonald's all-american?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
i really don't think holding on until the trade deadline would do anything
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
rondo as the #1 guy on a team w/ no real support would be nuts i'd like to see that
― clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
seriously the knicks might as good as the pacers this year
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:45 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
this is historically when the best deals happen, that been a known thing in the nba until having a media fire storm turned it the worst thing ever for w/e reason
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
kevin martin's 24 ppg: literally shittyson chandlers 10 pts, 9 rpg: all-star caliber.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
the knicks would have the worst staring back court in the nba, not even a question
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
toney douglaslandry fieldscarmelo anthonyamare stoudemiretyson chandler
^this team is worse than the hawks
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:46 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
hey nice stats you obvs understand basketball v well!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:47 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
sooo a 5th seed
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
^with one injury, this team is potentially worse than the sixers
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
20th draft pick
with one injury, this team is potentially worse than the sixers
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:48 AM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
this can be said abt every team in the league and you know it
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
kevin martin was top 20 in the league in PER, i had no idea
― clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
the knicks are a legit playoff team, if they have injury problems they are not, like the other playoff teams
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:48 AM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
dude wtf.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:49 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark
heat, celtics, bulls, hawks could all have an injury to one of their top 2 players and easily beat out the sixers
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
kevin martin is widely known as the worst defender in the nba
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
it could be as low as 18th if they're the 5th seed.
5+5=10
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link
20-18=2
8+4=12
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link
if the 8 western playoff teams had better records they would pick 18th.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link
omg its could be anywhere between 18 and 20! what a magnificent draft pick! i bet a lot of great players have been taken there!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link
why dont u do some research as far as the quality of those spots!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
dude you're the one who brought up math and then couldn't add.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
here's what could easily happen to the knicks this year -- howard gets his trade to the nets, amar'e has to miss 20 games, the pacers make good on their free agent signings and jump up two spots, and the sixers stay the same from last year
hmm what does that look like?
1 heat2 bulls3 celtics4 nets5 hawks6 pacers7 sixers8 knicks
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
it could be 18 it could be 20 do you see
no you said that 5th seed in east = 20th.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
honestly you can get pretty good players in that range
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
you mocked me for saying they could pick 18th, then said they'd be the 5th pick in the east.... which could be 18th.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances, hey maybe kevin martin will learn how to rebound pass and defend, think abt this what if this happened
1 knicks2 bulls3 celtics4 nets5 hawks6 pacers7 sixers8 heat
now what
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:55 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
5th in the east could be the 20th pick, it could also be the 18th pick, they both suck
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
but you said that me saying they'd pick 17th or 18th showed I "couldn't do math." and then you put them right in that range!
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
eric bledsoe, ty lawson, javale mcgee, jj hickson, roy hibbert, nick young, sean williams, rajon rondo, danny granger, hakeem warrick, josh smith, j.r. smith, jameer nelson
i mean these range from stars to very solid role players
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
well to be fair i said neither you or jordan could do math
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances
i made a trade based on a report that dwight howard wants to go to the nets! i mean, it's certainly something for the knicks to be worried about. i'm not sure why we should pretend that it couldn't happen.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
also i was using jordan prediction abt the knicks finishing position as an argument, i expect them to finish higher than the hawks
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link