J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

the hornets were clearly taking the nuggets approach of gathering a bunch of very good players

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:18 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

there were zero really good players going to nola, and just obvs paul is like 0x better than melo, AND denver got back better doods

A FIRST ROUND PICK wtf a meaningless term if there ever was one

10x better than melo obvs

i personally could move paul for a better package than nola got by tomorrow guaranteed

A FIRST ROUND PICK wtf a meaningless term if there ever was one

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:20 AM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

what the hell

I keep trying to respond to you and then you say things like that

predict kickback scandal w/nolas gm whoever the fuck that guys is

A FIRST ROUND PICK wtf a meaningless term if there ever was one

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:20 AM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

what the hell

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:22 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is called knowing what pick its gonna be, first round is meaningless in the sense that a top 5 pick is very good, a bottom five pick isnt worth the rookie contract, now tell me which that pick is likely to land closer to

AND denver got back better doods

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Danilo is a better asset in general (and they got those robusto unprotected FIRST ROUNDERS), so it was a better deal by far. But the players they got aren't better in the short term than Martin and Scola.

this is called knowing what pick its gonna be, first round is meaningless in the sense that a top 5 pick is very good, a bottom five pick isnt worth the rookie contract, now tell me which that pick is likely to land closer to

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:24 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

Probably smack in between.

in one of the deepest drafts ever, btw.

seriously dawg, you're realllly underrating scola and martin.

like if you think wilson chandler > scola and martin I don't know what to say other than I imagine you didn't watch many rockets games last year.

kevin martin is literally a shit player, worthless, a v efficient scorer and bottom 10% at everything else he suposed to do

scola could be useful if you were on the verge of winning a title and needed a spot filled, p sure nola isnt in that position, hes also 31 y/o

and lets keep in mind chris paul is a top 5 nba player

like if you think wilson chandler > scola and martin I don't know what to say other than I imagine you didn't watch many rockets games last year.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:27 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

o rly was that what denver got for a player that v inferior to paul thats not really how i recall it

"i personally could move paul for a better package than nola got by tomorrow guaranteed"

keep hearing this in donald trump's voice

you said they got "better doods"

danilo, mozgov, felton, chandler > odom, scola, martin?

xp

danilo is maybe as good as odom, scola's much better than chandler, martin's better than felton.

you realize paul is on another plane than melo right

yes of course.

also the draft pick is THE KNICKS, injuries barred a guaranteed playoff team, its not worth much, those go for abt $3m on the open market

but denver didn't get better doods, come on man.

also the draft pick is THE KNICKS, injuries barred a guaranteed playoff team, its not worth much, those go for abt $3m on the open market

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:33 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

injuries barred... when 2 of the 3 best players are Chandler and Stoudemire.

even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.

it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.

danilo, mozgov, felton, chandler > odom, scola, martin?

xp

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:30 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

yes, you need to take age in to consideration, nolas rebuilding, they dont need old guys, as we discussed paul is much much better than melo - also martin legit sucks, possibly the worst defender in the league

i mean look you aren't getting even value back for paul. or anything close to it. i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on. the package he got was pretty good, it could've even competed for an 8 seed depending on who else they signed.

even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

i suggest you guys peruse some past drafts and calculate how many irl players come out of the last third or even half of the 1st round, more busts than keepers, all stars few and far between

i mean look you aren't getting even value back for paul. or anything close to it. i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on. the package he got was pretty good, it could've even competed for an 8 seed depending on who else they signed.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

rondo for paul straight up is better than this deal, and thats not a good deal

i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on.

remember what happened to denver after melo left? they basically didn't lose for the rest of the year. getting rid of the soap opera that will be chris paul's season on the hornets, especially now, would be smart. too bad stern won't let them do that!

even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

you guys are horrible at math

remember what happened to denver after melo left? they basically didn't lose for the rest of the year. getting rid of the soap opera that will be chris paul's season on the hornets, especially now, would be smart. too bad stern won't let them do that!

― clay, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:40 AM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

totally its all a big narrative, doesnt matter if you end up w/the worst team in the nba

you could make the argument for rondo, sure -- i think you could also easily make the argument that for as good as rondo is, he's very much a product of a team that has a bunch of lights out shooters and he wouldn't be that amazing on a bunch of other teams.

I met gasol once at a restaurant

even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

you guys are horrible at math

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:40 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

No, we think the Knicks will be a 5-8th seed in the East and thus it will be a mid-roundish pick.

look at the knicks record after they got amere and melo, now add another allstar, ffs

wait, the knicks got another all star

LOL Chandler the allstar

chandler is legit!

you could make the argument for rondo, sure -- i think you could also easily make the argument that for as good as rondo is, he's very much a product of a team that has a bunch of lights out shooters and he wouldn't be that amazing on a bunch of other teams.

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

rondo is not a good deal, the hornets can do better, hold on to paul until the trade deadline, omg not media scrutiny what will we do!

Did you mean Mcdonald's all-american?

i really don't think holding on until the trade deadline would do anything

rondo as the #1 guy on a team w/ no real support would be nuts i'd like to see that

seriously the knicks might as good as the pacers this year

i really don't think holding on until the trade deadline would do anything

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:45 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is historically when the best deals happen, that been a known thing in the nba until having a media fire storm turned it the worst thing ever for w/e reason

kevin martin's 24 ppg: literally shit
tyson chandlers 10 pts, 9 rpg: all-star caliber.

the knicks would have the worst staring back court in the nba, not even a question

toney douglas
landry fields
carmelo anthony
amare stoudemire
tyson chandler

^this team is worse than the hawks

kevin martin's 24 ppg: literally shit
tyson chandlers 10 pts, 9 rpg: all-star caliber.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:46 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

hey nice stats you obvs understand basketball v well!

toney douglas
landry fields
carmelo anthony
amare stoudemire
tyson chandler

^this team is worse than the hawks

― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:47 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

sooo a 5th seed