lol stop it
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
had this trade gone through it wouldve been prob the all time most lopsided trade in nba history
This is really silly.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
i did not read the thread but can someone explain to me why l.a.'s good players were going to houston who were then moving a bunch of dudes and picks no one in their right mind gives a fuck abt to nola, ITS BOGGLING
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:16 (twelve years ago) link
matt out off all the shit nola was getting where would you rate the best guy, is there even a top 30 player in there, for the best point guard in the game, you have to be fucking joking
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
"Good players"
Dude Houston was just getting Gasol.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
one player
that is the best non paul player in the trade, the only guy w/any real value just fyi
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
the hornets were clearly taking the nuggets approach of gathering a bunch of very good players
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but did you not realize houston wasn't getting Odom?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
xp
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
its like: paul >> gasol >>>>>>>>>>> who gives fuck
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
I like that this is what's occupying neuilx@ 330 ET
― Mr Jimmy Mod, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
i'd rather have scola, martin, odom and a first round pick than odom and gasol, which is what NOLA would be looking at
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:18 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
there were zero really good players going to nola, and just obvs paul is like 0x better than melo, AND denver got back better doods
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
A FIRST ROUND PICK wtf a meaningless term if there ever was one
10x better than melo obvs
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:21 (twelve years ago) link
i personally could move paul for a better package than nola got by tomorrow guaranteed
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:20 AM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
what the hell
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
I keep trying to respond to you and then you say things like that
predict kickback scandal w/nolas gm whoever the fuck that guys is
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:22 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
this is called knowing what pick its gonna be, first round is meaningless in the sense that a top 5 pick is very good, a bottom five pick isnt worth the rookie contract, now tell me which that pick is likely to land closer to
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link
AND denver got back better doods
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
Danilo is a better asset in general (and they got those robusto unprotected FIRST ROUNDERS), so it was a better deal by far. But the players they got aren't better in the short term than Martin and Scola.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:24 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
Probably smack in between.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
in one of the deepest drafts ever, btw.
seriously dawg, you're realllly underrating scola and martin.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:26 (twelve years ago) link
like if you think wilson chandler > scola and martin I don't know what to say other than I imagine you didn't watch many rockets games last year.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:27 (twelve years ago) link
kevin martin is literally a shit player, worthless, a v efficient scorer and bottom 10% at everything else he suposed to do
scola could be useful if you were on the verge of winning a title and needed a spot filled, p sure nola isnt in that position, hes also 31 y/o
and lets keep in mind chris paul is a top 5 nba player
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:27 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
o rly was that what denver got for a player that v inferior to paul thats not really how i recall it
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
"i personally could move paul for a better package than nola got by tomorrow guaranteed"
keep hearing this in donald trump's voice
― clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:30 (twelve years ago) link
you said they got "better doods"
danilo, mozgov, felton, chandler > odom, scola, martin?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:30 (twelve years ago) link
danilo is maybe as good as odom, scola's much better than chandler, martin's better than felton.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
you realize paul is on another plane than melo right
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
yes of course.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
also the draft pick is THE KNICKS, injuries barred a guaranteed playoff team, its not worth much, those go for abt $3m on the open market
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
but denver didn't get better doods, come on man.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:33 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
injuries barred... when 2 of the 3 best players are Chandler and Stoudemire.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
even without injuries I expect their pick to be around 17 or 18 which will be nice value in this drat.
it was prob gonna be a mid round pick, you can get a decent player. it's a decently valuable asset.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:30 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
yes, you need to take age in to consideration, nolas rebuilding, they dont need old guys, as we discussed paul is much much better than melo - also martin legit sucks, possibly the worst defender in the league
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
i mean look you aren't getting even value back for paul. or anything close to it. i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on. the package he got was pretty good, it could've even competed for an 8 seed depending on who else they signed.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:38 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i suggest you guys peruse some past drafts and calculate how many irl players come out of the last third or even half of the 1st round, more busts than keepers, all stars few and far between
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
rondo for paul straight up is better than this deal, and thats not a good deal
i respect demps' desire to get rid of paul before the season so the team can just move on.
remember what happened to denver after melo left? they basically didn't lose for the rest of the year. getting rid of the soap opera that will be chris paul's season on the hornets, especially now, would be smart. too bad stern won't let them do that!
― clay, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
you guys are horrible at math
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
― clay, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:40 AM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
totally its all a big narrative, doesnt matter if you end up w/the worst team in the nba
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
you could make the argument for rondo, sure -- i think you could also easily make the argument that for as good as rondo is, he's very much a product of a team that has a bunch of lights out shooters and he wouldn't be that amazing on a bunch of other teams.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
I met gasol once at a restaurant
― good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 9 December 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 2:40 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
No, we think the Knicks will be a 5-8th seed in the East and thus it will be a mid-roundish pick.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link
look at the knicks record after they got amere and melo, now add another allstar, ffs
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:43 (twelve years ago) link
wait, the knicks got another all star
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link