This is the thread for the Fox News "Daily Show for conservatives" thing

Um, wouldn't that be the Daily Show?

Don't Tell Mama I'm for Obama

Hmmmmm...

He promised a lot of attacking of "sacred cows" that "never get attacked on television" like "global warming and barack obama."

soooooo OTM.

Yeah, this is gonna be HILARIOUS.

Surnow: The Half Hour News Hour

Praeger: (Pause) Ah... (Laughs) Even that's great!

plz to decode Buttstank?

The show is basically a bad version of the worst of Tina Fey's Weekend Update writing. I got really annoyed by Fey, who seemed to think Weekend Update was primarily about "informing" the audience (with heavy liberal bias), and only secondarily about joke-writing. Unfunny jokes were her stock in trade, but not for lack of talent, really -- just because she was choosing her material not according to the comedy value, but according to the educational value.

Result? Liberals went ga-ga over her for her relentless didacticism -- like her, they wanted not gags but "teachable moments" -- whereas Jimmy Fallon got all the laughs. You know-- laughs. The thing Weekend Update was supposed to be delivering.

My GOD, does this show blow. The guy doing the newscast shouldn't be allowed on studio property for fear whatever he has might be transmitted to other actors. The writing...well, it's like something you would expect from writers who have never done humor. Which makes me wonder if the second-tier talent from 24 is involved. Earth to Joel Surnow: comedy is a SPECIALTY. It's not enough to be able to fill a page and make a deadline. You have to have a special talent.

While Jon & the TDS crew do have a left-leaning point, is it really that hard to see that the show goes after those in power and pompous politicians doing stupid things? They constantly laughed or grimaced at Kerry's plunders two years ago, much less the Clinton Admin. Altho, that Admin was less stockd with braying jackasses, so the jokes weren't as easy.

WTF: Brian Unger is on this thing?!

Libertarian here. Not the party, the political philosophy(which ironically borders on a distaste for parties in general).

And what do you man by not have thought things through thoroughly" shadowcat?
I find when people say things like that they mean "accept political parties, if you don't you're wasting your time!" or "The government needs to interfere on behalf of (insert X whiney group who has no right to complain) because they're too lazy to get off their ass and do something other than whine!"
I had this LOONG discussion wih a very leftist woman. it was about the smoking bans.
"but what about the people who don't smoke?"
Who's making them go there?
"Where else will they go?"
A non=smoking restaraunt.
"Those didn't exist."
Hahahaa! Yeah they did. they were all over.
"You probably don't remember, but ost places were either smoking all over or the smoking section was poorly divided."
Yeah, I remember, and whle some places were poorly set up, newer restaraunts were very different.
"circular argument!"
No.
"Why should I have do deal with the smoke?"
You don't. Go somewhere else.
"Why should I have to?"
Because the owner of a private establishment has chosen not to abolish a certain legal activity.
"Where else should I go?"
That loop continued for about 10 minutes.
Eventually I suggested the alternative of getting together and starting a business that didn't have smoking.
"Well that's really hard!"(more or less)
Name a business that's easy and guaranteed, and I'll punch you for being stupid(isn't what I said, but it's what I meant).
"But a non smoking restaraunt would fail!"
Well first, that would show a lack of interest by the public for that kind of restaraunt, and second we're sitting in a restaraunt that's been non-smoking from day one and it's doing just fine.
"but what about the health risks for employees?"
at that point I gave up and didn't say "Who forced them to work there? NO ONE likes to work in food service, so they've probably got jack for skills and shouldn't be picky!"
I did however touch on the idea of PRECEDENT.

SO. if you're calling me an idealist, thank you.
If you just think that the government should be like an overprotective christian parent and watch and guide our every move, try making choices for yourself for a whole month. No book can tell you what to do, you cannot ask for advice. You will make every decision for yourself.
I suggest you do this on vacation.
My guess is you'll either be addicted to freedom or be frightened by choice. In case one, I'll congradulate you, in case two, I pity you.

Quickest sign that you have no argument: "lolz your punctuation sucks," which, while not a direct quote is fairly humouous in it's irony.

Oh, and I quit smoking last month, and prefer my brain cells specifically not coated in a waxy, irremovable substance that causes me to be too lazy for the letters Y and O.

and what on earth do you mean by "intelligible speech"?
I'm not DICTATING this so that's utter nonsense. Please take the time to type what you mean, as this is obviously not that.

Because clearly a) no-one here has ever had to make decisions for themselves before; and ii) relying on others for advice is a sign of weakness.

GZ I'm sick and tired of libertarians telling me that defending and promoting enforcement of labor, health and environmental standards is some kind of delusion we should unshackle ourselves from. Stop telling me what to do. And stop pretending that your standard of living and well-being is somehow unconnected from generations of political and human-rights movements that worked, fought and sacrificed so that you could enjoy the fruits of a society that hasn't yet managed to pollute all its rivers, allow banks and speculators to drive its economy into the ground, and drive all its citizens into an early grave with backbreaking, low-paid work.

"Buck up! You wouldn't have lasted a day on the Oregon Trail you buncha softies!" is not even close to anything I've said.
In fact, I have no idea what it could possibly have to do with liitation of personal freedoms.

I'm not 100% against government involvement in things like pollution(dumping, factory emissions, things that affect large areas) or fair labor practices(minimum wage, required to carry workers comp). I have a problem with the erosion of personal freedom.
Telling a business they can't allow their customers to do certain things is insane.
First it's smoking, next it's swearing, then it's questioning your leaders.
That's a 20 year journey, but it's quite possible.

Did anybody ever see the 2nd ep of this? Apparently more are on the way...