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Last Days did that different-scene thing well (and was also a chamber movie - not two characters, but not many more).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey, this thread made me realize that I'm pretty ignorant of Hanna-Barbera characters.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Vincent Gallo gives him a blowjob at the end.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

We do hear the other end in Babel, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

In the opening scene?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Flirt It plays the same story in 4 different locales with different people involved but same themes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, you're right, J.

And there's another Hartley movie that uses the same script for three different scenes, right? Haven't seen any of his except the first one.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten.

And only one of them would look the same on the plate as it did before. That's why seabugs are weird.

I like Jordan's idea of ignoring plane crashes, etc. You could do another take on 9/11, one showing America's complacency or somesuch.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Though maybe the guy will get disembowled at the end or something, if that helps.

Maybe you could send some zombies or evil robots rampaging through the office.

Chamber movies... that's a very descriptive term. I've never known what to call those types of movies so thanks.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The only thing that made Phonebooth at all tolerable was seeing Colin Ferrel (sp?) standing around being hot.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to confess: I don't really understand Hal Hartley's popularity. He seems fairly obscure -- there's never any hype around his movies, except maybe Henry Fool (which came out during the Great Summer of Indie Films [1998] and is not coincidentally the only one I've seen, if you don't count The Book of Life) -- and yet I seem to know quite a few people who are big fans of his. I'm forever telling myself, "Oh, I need to see some Hartley films" and then forgetting all about it, because nothing reminds me except when people periodically bring him up in conversation. I don't think Flirt and Amateur and Trust are even on Netflix.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversations with Other Women comes out on dvd next week, I put it on the ol' queue.

xpost yeah I like "chamber movies" too

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

So do I. I should see more theatre, probably.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I am unsold on chamber movies (cf my inability to stay awake throughout Metropolitan) but I do love Trust so much. Not on Netflix, no. :((((

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

OK... my best/worst movie idea ever: World War 1 as a horror flick, with the machines of war introduced in that conflict as the "bad guys".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can handle a chamber movie if the acting is great and the conflict/topic of conversation is of interest to me. Otherwise I just end up feeling like I'm locked in a tiny room with people I absolutely hate.

Off topic: What is it called when in the middle of a novel, there's another smaller story that's related to the larger story but isn't the main focus of it? The only example I can think of is the one that prompted me to ask the question - in All the King's Men, Jack Burden tells the story of Cass Mastern, which is long and relevant but also a separate story as far as tone, time, place, etc. goes.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

A frame story, Jenny? Although in those the inner story is usually the point?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

it is a tragedy that Trust isn't on DVD yet, Laurel. I wish you could come over and watch my VHS copy!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO'S AFRAID OF VA WOOLF?!!!!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Framing usually refers to how the main story is treated, right?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a bunch of hartley movies that i got from netflix. i think it was amateur that i started with...loved that movie.

eric, would the guy sing? that could liven things up. maybe.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I don't think frame story is right. That would be like The Princess Bride or Tales from the Crypt (to name two extremely literary examples). This is sort of like a long-ass diversion story in the middle of an independent story. I feel like the Bronte sisters pull this kind of stunt in some of their books, but I'm rusty on my Victorian lit and can't remember specifically.

xpost - In Who's Afraid of VA Woolf, I'm locked in a room with four horrible people who are drunk and hilarious and awesome, so it's okay.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking of, like, Arabian Nights, Frankenstein, Canterbury Tales, even Usual Suspects, etc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

VA Woolf was an example of a GOOD movie.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That was an xpost, yeah I thought so. I don't know if there's a different term for those. It reminds me of The Thin Man where five pages in the middle are randomly devoted to the Alferd Packer (cannibal) story.

Those Hal Hartley movies sound interesting, but if they're not on netflix then I will never see them. I put Amateur on my queue though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It is called the interruptischmiddelstorien.

I wonder what it's called. Like the watch story in Pulp Fiction.

VA Woolf is the classic chamber drama.

Maybe he could sing, Julia. Maybe it'll be Nick Cave staring out an office window for 90 minutes.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best film. I will fight you so hard if you disagree.

Phonebooth had an interesting premise, poorly executed.

I have an interesting idea for a suspense film involving a portaledge and a multipitch aid climb on Baffin Island, called The Great and Secret Show.

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the singing idea, but I think it should be long spans of one-sided telephone conversation, interrupted by several short songs that he sings directly to the camera. Or perhaps that someone else sings, commenting on the action (or lack thereof), like a Greek chorus.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That's beautiful, Nick. It'll be minutes and minutes of "Uh-huh. [Pause.] I know, I know [Pause.] Did you tell her that? [Pause.] Uh-huh. [Pause.] Uh-huh," and then he just turns to the camera and lets his heart out.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_within_a_story ?

It's like picture-within-a-picture.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

So, Buffy, the Musical, basically? I could do this all day. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel will be the seen-it-all executive producer who wants results and a big b.o. opening weekend.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What I like about this movie is that we could realistically make it for free, if we borrowed a camera and snuck into an office building.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you like how I shifted this from the idea phase to the action phase?

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ooooh, project!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i like projects

i am also a former filmmaker!

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"Story within a story" seems to describe exactly what I'm talking about. I wish there was a snappier name for it, though.

xpost - I can get you into office buildings.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

What is a "mis en scene"?

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Mise en abyme reminds me that I heard 2 guys talking at a coffee shop and one used the term "in medias res" in casual conversation to refer to a friend dropping in on him while he was in the middle of something.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha: Mise en scène (IPA: [miz?s?n]) has been called film criticism's "grand undefined term," but that is not because of a lack of definitions. Rather, it's because the term has so many different meanings that there is little consensus about its definition. (per Wikipedia)

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It'll be minutes and minutes of "Uh-huh. [Pause.] I know, I know [Pause.] Did you tell her that? [Pause.] Uh-huh. [Pause.] Uh-huh,"

I used to write playlets like this all the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

somehow, that is hardly surprising

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

He and Chris P. collaborated on them.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what Chris has to do with it, but let's just say I'm a fan of banality and realism in art.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not even a fan of banality in LIFE, and I can experience that FOR FREE. ;)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

mise en place

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris gets off on all things others find bland. (He is hot for the guy who represents the PC in the Mac vs. PC commercials.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I think the chamber movie for you and Jeff (made by some of my poker buddies) is Bug.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

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