― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
see, that's what i thought but then i saw this in the paper:
http://www.plasma-lcd-facts.co.uk/myths/energy-use/
"MythPlasma TVs use more power than their LCD rivals.
FactThe reality is that plasma TVs don’t necessarily use any more power than LCDs – a fact which makes perfect sense if you think about how each technology works."
so there you go. disclaimer, this was a panasonic advert and panasonic want to sell you plasma tvs. i would take this with a skipload of salt.
http://callforhelptv.com/callforhelp/shownotes/0283.shtml?regular
Samsung plasma:standby: 1 watt, 0.06 ampsblack screen: 65 watts, 0.58 ampswhite screen: 256 watts, 2.23 ampsred screen: 232 watts, 2.02 ampsblue screen: 231 watts, 2.13 ampsgreen screen: 208 watts, 1.80 ampsstatic: 311 watts, 2.71 amps
Samsung LCDstandby: 10 watts, 0.17 ampsblack screen: 200 watts, 2.55 ampswhite screen: 199, 2.58 ampsred screen: 199 watts, 2.57 ampsblue screen: 198 watts, 2.57 ampsgreen screen: 198 watts, 2.96 ampsstatic: 264 watts, 3.23 amps
seems to vary a lot with what is actually displayed. goths are probably better off with a plasma... (crt readings would be interesting)
(is that our sean carruthers btw?)
― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, don't LCDs have a really, really long lifespan? I'd think the only thing that'd be sure to die is the florescent backlight, and they have like a 60,000 hour life. If you're worried about a TV dying at 60,000 hours, you watch too much. Stray pixels might start to go bad, but that's not such a big deal either.
Plasmas don't have as long a lifespan, but they are a lot cheaper (and look better, in my opinion).
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
lcd lifespans are really good, no?
xpost heh
― false cat (sleep), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
seriously? LCD tvs are the only tvs that have ever really floored me with how clear and sharp the picture is. plasmas dont look that remarkable to me.
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Plasmas aren't a lot cheaper (at non-gigantic sizes, anyway) are they? It's the other way around, I thought.
I seem to be wrong to lump LCD displays in with plasmas when it comes to lifespans. I was just going by what someone once told me, about CRTs lasting for blimmin ever these days (Tombot's experience notwithstanding).
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― The PEW Research Center for Panty-Twisting (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
TVs and monitors have always seemed to me to be the one electronics thing that hasn't tumbled in price. I mean, yes, flat screens are much cheaper than they used to be, but they doesn't seem much cheaper than a CRT one used to be (though what counts as large screen has increased, of course). I mean, it's not like the way DVD players are now given away for peanuts. Buying a decent TV is going to cost me hundreds of pounds.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link
CRTs were all like $20 at Best Buy, btw.
― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_moreinfo/Bush-RF6685VPL-28quot-TV/28026151.html
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Two minutes ago it had one rating :)
― onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost Oh!
xpost Ah.
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
But, yeah, as small a telly as possible, to minimise the visibility of compression artefacts, I reckon. (Remember when you were sat really closer to the TV at Porkpie/Vicky's one New Year's Eve, Tracer? How bad it looked?) Perfect for Lovejoy reruns.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link
the last CRT I bought (five years ago) developed some kind of geometry warp within a year.
(200 pounds is $400 now)
― akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link
It is incredibly confusing trying to research this stuff online. I thought this was the big way people were making money on the Internet, by pointing people towards stuff to buy in a helpful way. But I feel like I'm just casting my hook into the sea and coming up with an alphabet soup of model numbers every time.
It's absurd that there are so many TVs, and kinds of TVs. How many different "viewing needs" can people actually have? There should be only two kinds of television made in the world. A big, HD one for rich people and a little, normal one for poor people. Economies of scale would mean that the little one would end up costing like 20 dollars and the big one would be like 300.
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
HD pisses me the fuck off actually.
1. none of your DVDs are in HD.2. none of your video games are in HD.3. odds are hardly any of your television is in HD.
AND! the cost for upgrading three out of three of these things to BE in HD is entirely passed on to you, the consumer.
Fuck 'em.
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Xbox 360 and PS3 are HD, and the original Xbox, the Gamecube, and the Wii look way better in 480p on a HDTV than on an SD set. The PS2 does admittedly look horrible on most HDTVs.
DVDs also look way way better on an HDTV, and if you like primetime network shows, most of that is in HD. Unless it's a gameshow or Extreme Home Makeover.
I just really like HDTV. It's great and seriously doesn't have to be that expensive. Seeing an old movie in HD is especially exciting, because you're not used to seeing that much detail on something so old.
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
I shudder to think what the verb usage might involve.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link
-- TOMB07 (tombo...) (webmail), January 3rd, 2007 5:29 PM. (trm)
lolol YES
― aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link