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dodgers traded dana eveland to the orioles to get back some of that pr juice from the angels. suck it arte!

this contract isn't really about how bad he plays in his 40s, it's really about whether he's gonna be good enough in the next 4 or 5 years to offset that -- and that's still possible

everyone is saying that cj to the angels is a done deal

cj to the angels for 5/75

It was weird that SBN had the Cubs as the other rumored Pujols contender last night. Why would Theo go near such a contract?

The Angels are the new Marlins

(and by new I mean "today's")

man. this team stealing the Marlin's thunder.
just trying to figure out their finances is boggling my mind right now.

xpost - drive the price up for the Cards?

just for fun i looked up other well-known players 40 yr stats...

Hank Aaron: .268/.341/.491, 2.4 WAR
Bonds: .362*/.609*/.812*, 11.9 WAR!!!
Ty Cobb .339/.408/.511, 1.7 WAR
Willie Mays: .271/.425/.482, 6.4 WAR
Frank Robinson: .237/.385/.508, 1.0 WAR
Frank Thomas: .240/.349/.374, -0.1 WAR
Honus Wagner: .252/.317/.317, 4.2 WAR
Stan Musial: .275/.354/.486 1.9 WAR

my coworker is convinced Pujols is actually 34, btw. not a lot of guys playing at 44 to compare!

Thomas was pretty productive at 39, I think.

Passan has been bringing up A-Rod, like that is the one comparison to make.

and i agree that the contract isn't about how he'll play at 40-42... right now. but in 7/8 years it will be.

pujols is getting elite money when he could be entering his "very, very good but no longer all-time great" phase.

Now there's a rumor about a Bailey-Trumbo-others deal.

It was weird that SBN had the Cubs as the other rumored Pujols contender last night. Why would Theo go near such a contract?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, December 8, 2011 10:10 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah... i'm not sure if we'll ever find out if there was a third team in there or not. i don't think the cubs needed to be bidding the cardinals up considering what the marlins and angels were doing

I think the idea is that Pujols' market value was something like $40/$45 million in his *peak* years, and that Pujols has outperformed his past contracts more than any player ever.

Still, I cannot believe the A-Rod contract has 6 more years to go, it's already looking like one of the worst contracts in baseball, but coming from the team that willingly traded for Vernon Wells this is probably not much of a concern

i would like to see the Angels payroll projections for the next decade in chart form!

jered weaver did his team a serious fucking solid by taking a team friendly deal this season. what a bro.

Happy birthday, Vernon Wells.

marlins had highest bid in on pujols AND wilson, btw

i think pujols got permanently spooked by the marlins refusing to include a no-trade, and cj just wanted to play in LA and was willing to give up $20m to do so

i wonder when they're going to tell him that he'll be playing in anaheim.

he said on sportscenter he wanted to sign with the dodgers but we're cash strapped bitches so he went with anaheim.

marlins offered pujols 10/275

thank you based god that loria refused to give him a no-trade

:D

LoMoMarlins
The real winner is the gov. In the Pujols signing. Cali is taking 25m and Feds are taking 80m. We might be getting out of the deficit sooner

: D

hahah

I'd be bitter too if I was on the Marlins!

fwiw

LeBatardShowDan LeBatard Show

The Marlins didn't offer Pujols $275 million. That's total nonsense. Total. Feels leaked by Pujols people to make him seem less greedy

lol K-Rod accepted artibtration, that sucks for Milwaukee

so who's after Prince now, besides the Marlins I presume?

kinda surprised. basically he went money > role.

so who's after Prince now, besides the Marlins I presume?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, December 8, 2011 2:28 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

weird thing w/ this is that national writers have been saying that the marlins have been sniffing around prince, but local guys have been adamant that they have no interest in him

i think you're looking at the brewers, cubs, mariners and rangers, though i wouldn't rule the marlins out

Brewers definitely won't be able to afford him if they're going to pay K-Rod $13.5 million, and Cubs probably won't want that kind of contract - I would say Rangers, Jays, and Marlins are most likely

i think rangers make the most sense

brewers will likely make him an offer on the lower end -- could see the cubs offering him a shorter deal for more money tho, esp if the market is wide open

i will eat my hat if the J's make a move on him.

(as in, it is so not happening)

why not? he could singlehandedly make them a contender

Seattle makes some sense too though they're not "one piece away" from anything

he goes against everything AA looks for in a player.

overweight and zero positional flexibility. not to mention the price tag and years are both things AA said he will avoid (although i'm sure we've all heard that before).

plus the J's are ~ok~ at 1st for now. i'd imagine adding a starter is his priority now that the 2B and closer roles have been settled.

thats all true but if you can get him at the right price (and really, how many teams are there that will make a serious offer?), you kind of have to think, is AA going to settle for a 88-90 win club, or is he going to make a serious playoff run in the toughest division?

the problem is probably more the years than the price

i don't see the J's being a 88-90 win club even with Fielder! i think they're at least 3-4 years away from contention - when AA's draft picks are hitting the majors and maturing. why pay Prince to hang around until then - and then block a player who might be better suited for 1st than anywhere else (like they did with Lind).

Jon_Heyman
People ask, is albert pujols worth $254 million? And I say, is he 3 times better than aj burnett? Or twice as good as vernon wells? #bargain

This dude is dumb as rocks.

overweight and zero positional flexibility. not to mention the price tag and years are both things AA said he will avoid (although i'm sure we've all heard that before).

Nobody expects positional flexibility from their first baseman. As for his weight, health is a skill. Fielder has never been injured and plays 160 games every year. He looks like an exception to the rule, like Sabathia.

The Jays could do worse than signing Fielder, as long as they don't sign him for 20M per and then cap the team payroll at some ridiculously low number like they did when they extended Delgado.

"Nobody expects positional flexibility from their first baseman."

You do expect them to be able to play first base though, which Fielder is not great at and will only get worse.

the rays just signed matt moore to a 5 yr, 14m contract o________________________________________O

i didn't know he was a two-sport athlete!

wow. how do the Rays keep getting away with this

no idea

cubs traded tyler colvin and dj lamahieu to the rockies for ian stewart and casey weathers