itt liverpool not winning things; sandbox i love football

oooh, the annual 4-4-2 list is out. should we poll it?

"On this stage a 7-1 away win is an exception. Maybe I'm naive when I think it normally doesn't work like this, but if Zagreb gave the match away they should be punished," Frank De Boer said after a night that consigned Ajax to the Europa League.

"But I think it is hard to find any evidence in this case," he told reporters.

funniest placing is rooney at #6 obv.

gerrard #78th best player despite playing like 3 games.

Essien is at #65????? No wonder print media is dying.

Barmby would run Rooney a lot closer in a pie-eating contest.

link? xp

Yes, can't wait to see where Song is

he didnt place. also i have the mag, you'll have to find it yaselves.

modric at #18 seems abt right.

top ten is ozil, rvi, pique, silva, worlds best right back, villa, iniesta, xavi, cronaldo, messi.

so basically if real or barca didn't exist, they'd think rooney the best player of the year.

That's it, you can type out the good bits for us

oh fuck, that's a world list?

i saw rooney #6 and assumed league, and thought 'that's high but lol english media i suppose'

Tad Anglocentric

Joe Hart, 6th best goalkeeper in the world

tbfttl that may be true

i need a hobby

damiao
ferdinand
rossi
prince boateng
maicon
klose
masch
hart
llorente
lugano
pereira
mueller
balotelli
martinez
buffon
lucio
wilshere
reina
cazorla
forlan
m'vila
pepe
gerrard
marchisio
erikson
robinho

100-76

thank you sam

hulk
de rossi
hamsik
kaka
sanchez
pato
kagawa
dzeko
chiellini
essien
lloris
abidal
falcao
tevez
pirlo
marcelo
puyol
ramos
fat frank
valdes
vdv
drogba
di natale
mario gomez

75-51

How many of the hundred aren't at Barca-Real-EPL top six-Milan clubs-Juve-or-Bayern?

Thinking rarely comes more wishful than with the English and their goalkeepers

i shd promise not to be all OMG SO UNFAIR SO OVERATED about silly lists, but honestly tommy muller is srsly and systematically underrated

most of this seems ok tho, recurring difficulty is assessing asging superstars with injury problems

wilshere behind hamsik, a small relief i guess

terry
robben
hazard
hernandez
hummels
bale
mata
evra
torres!!!!!!!!! at fucking 42!!!!!!!!!!!*
goetze
coentrao
yaya
ribery
xabi alonso
nani
kompany
cole
zlatan
thiago silva
di maria
benzema
eto'o**
pedro
nasri
cavani

50-26

*lets type this up: "He spent most of 2011 failing to live up to a £50m price tag, taking over 900 minutes to score for Chelsea. But his ability is undoubted: with confidence returning to his game, don't be surprised to see him rocket back up the charts next year."

How the fuck do they decide these things if Torres makes it? Not only makes it but comes ahead of di natale, sanchez and hazard?

** lol dagistan is the place to prove how great you are, obv.

Complaining about Rooney's placing when this dude is in the list is some serious fiddling while Rome burns:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/PrinceBoatengAP_468x309.jpg

pastore
alves
neymar
higuain
lahm
suarez
casillas
modric
busquets
vidic
neuer
aguero
sneijder
schweinsteiger
cesc
ozil
van persie
pique
silva
rooney
villa
iniesta
xavi
ronaldo
messi

kpb has been awes this year in a title winning side of dudes so old they are melting

how milan figured out why to buy him and how to make him great is another question

messi ahead of bale? fuck this list.

have u seen boateng lately? he is srsly a very good player

xp sam otm

kpb had a good wc2010 with ghana, tbf

Evra being on there is the real travesty

When you actually see it written down like that then Rooney is 0_o

no nicky barmby? cuuunts

tevez-rooney gap is an unjustifiable mystery

I make it 78/100, and 60 of the top 70, play for those dozen clubs

xp

Barmby-level performance, imo, flatters rooney somewhat

I know goals are only part of the equation obviously, but . . .

Drogba - 2004-present (7 seasons) - 98 goals - 14 goals per season.

It's ridiculous to say that Rooney's the 6th best player in the world, and just as ridiculous to say that he should be in the England side instead of Sturridge based on current form, but to say that he's been top-end-of-mediocre over the last decade seems almost willfully challopsy.

anyone-rooney gap is a etc.

didnt tevez retire or something

drogba games played vs rooney games played in that time, pls?

drogba games played in midfield v rooney games played in midfield?

you can be willfully challopsy & believe it & be right- depending on how prevalent & correct the accepted wisdom is

the beast that can be has-been drogba at chelsea (apps/goals/assists) all comps

316 	146 	68

& croxteth cromag

339 	158 	80

Can't we be willfully challopsy & believe it & be right about something else for once?

years tapping in from ronaldo/valencia/scholes vs years watching ffl boot it from anywhere while mikel and kalou do..... not much of anything i guess

Christ, you are predictable

Not replacing Messi at the top with, I dunno Jermaine Jenas or someone is an abdication of duty.

id probably rate rooney at suarez' level or thereabouts, maybe 30/40ish on that list

now we're talkin boys

That said, hysterically flapping because he's higher than some kid with an inflated price tag who's only performed in the French or Dutch league so far is nagl.

reckon suarez can still improve, wayne is never going to be as good as that goalfest season he had a few years back.

plus suarez is a lot more sporting and seems a genuinely good guy.

plus suarez is a lot more sporting and seems a genuinely good guy

You bring a smile to my face

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Drogba looks at the list and sees himself 10 places below Torres though.