Dear ILE - a plea

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CANDYMAN CANDYMAN CANDYMAN

Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

but then again they are rarely directed toward me.

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jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

The point I'm making is that people are claiming that bullying chases bullied people away
I don't know if anyone's saying that it chases the bullied people away, but there are claims that it puts off other people, by creating a hostile or semi-hostile envir---oh god, even I'm bored of this now.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

oh damn, read before posting. xpost

stet (stet), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

CANDYMAN CANDYMAN CANDYMAN

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CANDYMAN (dan perry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

jon i am immune to the manatee zings!

maunders (maunders), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan OMG WTF etc.

Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

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amon (amon), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

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amon (amon), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

is it just me or is this thread (perhaps not so strangely) lacking participation from most of the traditionally super-hostile ILXors...?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey fuck you, pal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

NED RAGGETT OTM

a_p (a_p), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

VERILY

^@^ (map), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

*cries*

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey fuck you, pal.

Hell ;)

coz larry (bundgee), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What with that and the dead people photos I'm starting to worry about Ned.

ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

you want I should ban him?

stet (stet), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's a fake Ned.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

coochie.org

amon (amon), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm the only fake Ned round here.

ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, what happened to Anna Nicole Smith?

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Fluffy Bear, the anti-lex

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Not at all. I, too, am tired of Dan Perry's homophobic bluster. Dan, we are in this together. We will help you let go of the hate.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

contra matt i didn't stop posting bcz of bad stuff happnin on ilx, i stopped posting bcz my mum was dying :(

i haven't resumed so much bcz it is after all TIME-DEVOURING and i kinda felt i wanted to get stuff done elsewhere a bit and make my fortune and that and then one day come back and you will all want to be my friends but i will DISDANE you haha

mark sinker (mark s), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

<3 mark

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

oh mark s we knew him when

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, that is so much my plan, too, except I haven't really left and I'm lazy and socially awkward, so I will just settle for disdain.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

You were the one who flipped to the end of CYOA books to find the good endings, weren't you????

Oh wait, that was me. BUT I BET YOU DID IT TOO

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

then one day come back and you will all want to be my friends but i will DISDANE you haha

So much for inviting YOU to the London FAP.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

my name looks weird with all its other letters

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

mark s irken

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, this is taking some time to read through, whilst trying to rein in my will to live, which seems to keep deserting me. A quick skim through suggests the following:

Mark: How about, at least from now until nuILE is ready, people DON'T react to any other popular forum demons with barbed comments, malicious witticisms, or just pointless blunt abuse, every single time they post.

Lex: lots of people seem unable to tell when they're crossing the line from banter into vicious bullying

How about some people not taking every criticism of things they say as bullying, rather just an observation that they aren't OTM and aren't getting showered in hugglez? Lex's comment cuts both ways: why can't some people see banter as banter and not as bullying? For example, people attack Louis personally. He encourages it! God knows how or why he does, but bless him for it. (I realise there is a middle ground where people are made to feel like shite, but some people can't tell black and white from shades of grey)

Johnney B: Oh, it's their opinions that you dislike? Attack their opinions to shit, really attack them, show the world how they are wrong. But don't attack them personally, or they'll probably ignore you.

See above about recipients of criticism who can't tell the difference. Then wonder why you're getting ignored when you are criticising a person and not their opinions (then wait for a thread on how opinions maketh the person).

Kate: I mean, I'll be perfectly honest about why I started mine own little Balkan - because I was being repeatedly and focusedly bullied on a variety of threads by very specific individual(s), which was killing those threads. A single thread to corral my chatter also had the result of the ability to ban bullies focused on a person.

Get one fucking blog. You had a whole board (which you locked) for this self-centred bollocks. You now shout at, or ignore, people who you don't agree with you on what is a public part of a public messageboard. Might I suggest if you didn't rise to whatever bait was being dangled at you that the threads you refer to might not have been killed in the first place?. Actually, why am I even bothering? You probably think I'm a bully though all I've actually done is try to point out to you exactly why you're the focus of some of this shit (look back on other FITES we've had on the watercooler and show me ONE that is bullying you as opposed to me disagreeing with your view on something, go on.)

Ronan: That's the same reason football threads are some of the most enjoyable, even though I'm no expert I find myself posting on them more because at least there is banter, and it's fairly constant (eg Liverpool always shit etc)

Also, when all other targets are gone, we can all still laugh at DJ Martian.

when did '133t' speak take off on ILE anyway?...I remember when Mark S and Starry would interact and I was like: WTF are they SAYING?

That's not 1337-speak, that's Molesworth as any fule no.

This whole thread is shite. You don't like the way ILE is, ignore it, react against it, drown it in a sea of kittens (actually, don't do that), leave, set up "I love old-ILE", whatever. But, fuck it, this meta "I want it like this" "no, I want it like that" shit is dull. NO-ONE CAN WIN! I can't believe I spent so long reading this. Make it what you want, find a way to deal with it, or fuck off. Me and Ned and teh_kit and stet and RJG and Kate and Sam and Dom and Nabisco and accentmonkey and Uncle Tom Cobleigh are all as much part of this as anyone else and no-one gets to define it any more (if they ever did to start with). The day I can't be arsed any more, I'll leave. The internet is fucking huge. I'll find somewhere else.

(there are many MANY other things people have said on this thread I disagree with. Most of them have been eloquently countered. I can't be arsed OTMing them, I just wanted to make a point, probably because I'm convinced from things she's said and done that I am one of these terrible people that's bullying Kate). Now I'm off to bang my head against a wall, and tomorrow I will continue to post to ILE like I did before.

xpost: In other, lighter-hearted, news, I saw Mark S' doppelganger outside my work today.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what? I can't even be bothered to read that, it's just too many blocks of black against mine eyes and I'm cranky enough

onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

light-hearted to you, a lifetime of overshoulder dread for me: WHAT IS HE UP TO NOW?

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Ailsa more and more.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with her about these meta-threads being fairly pointless, but the sentiment is expressed in an unnecessarily harsh manner.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Big xpost
"fwiw, no one complained when i, along with many others inc yourself, said i liked music made by people who were sexist (sundry hip-hop) or homophobic (sundry dancehall). i still really like the paris hilton album, which doesn't mean i approve of whatever racist things she's said (i haven't seen the video).

yrs,
flouncy, shallow, image-obsessed-and-i-bet-limp-wristed-and-lisping-too drama queen "
Dude.
Shut up.

Saying someone behaves like a little girl is SEXIST and perhaps agist(though that's entirely different, as teenagers are as a whole fucking stupid).
It is not homophobic at all.
As such it's either true or not.
Also, liking Paris Hilton in any way is comperable to saying "you know, cocaine is actually pretty fun! it's not nice to make fun of things I like!"
Paris Hilton is a cancer, a pseudo-human, a vampiric monstrosity, an airwave-borne social disease destroying human decency, one of the many reasons it's become 'cool' to be undereducated and bratty.

In any case, you're overreacting and/or trying to pull some 'gay card.'
My ex boyfriend (who is a joyless hobbity lawyer-wannabe, but decent human in some ways) would probably be more offended than I.
And I'm offended that you would use this to defend bad taste.
Grr.


The problems I have with the internet and what's spreading into ILE are:
Sardonic/sarcastic/snotty 'humour' that's often not even relevant.
Passive agressive baiting.
"Hey! I don't care that i'm wrong! I now decide to get everyone's sympathy and use it against you!" which is the behavior of...a 12 year old girl.
Refusing the benefit of the doubt/never getting confirmation of intent/not caring about intent.

These things bring out the worst in me. I dislike feeling that way.

Geza T iz tha Rainy G. Toronado (The GZeus), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(but I don't have any problem with Kate and am totally, blissfully unaware of any grudges against her)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

ailsa you probaly should just start your own 'watercooler' type thread.

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the Scottish Football Predictions thread for that, also an email account, and, y'know, a workplace with a watercooler. And also, why the fuck should I? I like the people on the real Watercooler thread.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Paris Hilton is a cancer, a pseudo-human, a vampiric monstrosity, an airwave-borne social disease destroying human decency

gosh, the words of a truly level-headed, rational and functional human being! i think you should go see someone about this, i can feel the twitching from here

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the Scottish Football Predictions thread for that,

This might be a joke. Might be.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the people on the real Watercooler thread.

i'm pretty sure if you or someone else started a 'UK daytime idle chit-chat' thread that pretty much all of them would post on it. why wouldn't they?

resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

ailsa, have a key to the city!
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050211/sp1.jpg

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

also an email account

omgggg huggle

jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Because I shouldn't need to. There's one there already. And I'm not going to make it a taking sides ailsa vs kate, which I'm pretty sure she would if people deserted "her" thread for "mine". I don't need it or care that much, I just don't like being told what I can and can't post on ILE by someone who's not a moderator.

(also I don't post from work!)

xpost

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

whoa

doctor morbius (bundgee), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link


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