I like the game so much more when it feels like a puzzle, where you have to make all the right choices in order to come out ahead, so blue is probably my favorite
That said the red "fuck you I'm going to spend every resource I have to kill you quick before your fancy deck can do anything" attitude is neat too.
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
caveat: ive been playing a friend of mine who played in tournaments and stuff in the early days of magic but who lost in interest in the game after the first few years, so the only cards ive really played with are the first say dozen or so sets and expansions.
but the thing i like most abt magic is the off-hand world building they do in the occassional card description and how distinct all the colors are, they way these piecemeal bits of history and legened accrue a kind of weight and importance through abscence and repetition
anyway i like mythology of the white cards the best, the faintly biblical bent of it
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
always loved the original Spirit Link artwork:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Legends/Spirit%20Link.jpg
Old school magic definitely had that flavor. Black had Unholy Strength and Demonic Tutor (both with pentagrams) and White had Jihad and Crusade. That all seems by the wayside now
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
1. blue2. red3. blue and red
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
gotta go black, but blue had counterspell and all kinds of other crazy shit.
― J-Cova, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
i remember always trying to go big with this:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx%3Fsize%3Dsmall%26type%3Dcard%26name%3DLeviathan%26options%3D
― J-Cova, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
1. blue2. white3. green4. red5. black
― cad, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
actually maybe
1. blue and red 2. blue3. red
there is really no better feeling than knowing you have both lightning bolts and counterspells in your deck
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mtgmintcard.com/images/products/131/MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-BEATDOWN-LEVIATHAN-BTDW044.jpg
I don't think today's players will ever quite appreciate what Leviathan meant to us back in the day, when the thrill of attacking with anything bigger than a 4/4 was rare
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
i think white at least in the early sets has the best sense of place and expansive history or s.thing:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=250&type=card http://www.mtgmintcard.com/images/products/125/MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-ALPHA-CASTLE-ALPU013.jpg
like its just the sun dappled idyll where angels and lions and knights are chillin all the time
also a big fan of:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Legends/The%20Tabernacle%20at%20Pendrell%20Vale.jpg
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
leviathan mostly just meant "dammit this is gonna be in my hand forever"
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
this guy otoh:
http://www.gaymerlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/shivan_dragon_art_by_melissa_benso.jpg
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
had a signed one iirc
I miss that style of art - this one was cool too
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Beta/Stasis.jpg
today's cards seem to have a lot of generic fantasy art that is obviously computer-assissted, technically impressive but no personality
that Shivan is just the coolest thing ever
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
man i was about to make a new MTG thread
i've been sucked back into it recently, it's still really fun
― smh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
voted green, though would have voted blue a few years ago before they juiced up green a bit and made it not terrible
― smh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
and yeah the pre-style guide era art is still neat and p. unique sometimes
― smh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
people seem to like that squirrel card huh
― J-Cova, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
it was a key piece of the power squirrel deck
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
i definitely remember making infinite squirrels with http://magiccards.info/od/en/274.html back in the day
― smh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i meant this one. just because nobody ever had a good explanation as to what it was supposed to be
http://client-cdn.crystalcommerce.com/photo/ccghouse/file/80908/large/scan0010.jpg
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
omg I was all about stasis decks, but I am a pretty annoying person tbh
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
'how do we make this game as unbearable as possible...'
i have a MTG 'encyclopedia' book that was published in like 1995 or so that 's just full color images of every card up through Ice Age
it's pretty sweet
― smh, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
lol I had that as a kid
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I have that book too, smh! Beautiful stuff.
Voted red. Explosions! Pillaging hoardes!
― moonbop, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
White is obv the best smh indeed
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol i forgot i had a statis/burn deck
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
just in terms of power white is pretty weak in early era magic. I remember reading about it getting strong later, but if you had to make a single color deck w/ revised cards, I think white would prob be the weakest deck. tho serra angel <3.
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
white was weak offensively yea but had so many total board altering/reset cards at that time (wrath of god, armageddon) & swords to plowshares/disenchant that it would prob be my second choice after blue in this poll
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
Mono white beta/alpha owns p hard lots of crazy stalls and total board control
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
ya but it just doesn't have the power to back it up. blue has the same control aspect but can also kick your ass.
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
tho when you do get to kill somebody w/ serra angels it's very majestic
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
black because sangir vampires are just so sexy
― bene_gesserit, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
white had Balance, arguably the greatest card ever printed
http://www.chuck-a-con.net/MTG-balance3ED.jpg
also Sword to Plowshares was probably the best creature removal ever
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
crusade is p rad as well tbh
idk alpha/beta/unlmtd white is def abt a slower victory and im sure it is underpowered but there are just so many cool cards
also its the most fun to tell stories in my head abt as i play
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I don't think the fact that it's slightly weaker means it shouldn't be anyone's favorite
I mean who can deny this card and the art: http://www.mtgvault.com/images/cards/medium/2ED/Wrath_of_God.jpg
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
i have to say im p glad i didnt love this shit when i was kid cuz i wouldve spent all my money on it. like i kinda wrote it off as stupid but there really is a tonne of strategy in deck building. i mean it kinda sux now cuz lol game theory but it seems like everyone just finds optimal decks really quickly and essentially plays variations on them but then i have no desire to buy new cards so its probably for the best
― blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
this was always the coolest creature (was quite good too):
http://www.toplessrobot.com/1%29%20Juzam%20Djinn%20lg.jpg
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
ya that was me. in retrospect I'm mostly just glad I didn't have that much money to spend to begin w/, that was sorta an advantage in some ways cause it required me to use what I had pretty efficiently, but otoh this was definitely my introduction to class consciousness. xp
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:35 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
otmfm
― cad, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
I liked playing sealed/draft games better because the 'spend $500 = win' advantage didn't exist anymore and it really requires another level of critical thinking.
tho having massively polished and powerful decks is fun too.
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it kinda sux now cuz lol game theory but it seems like everyone just finds optimal decks really quickly and essentially plays variations on them but then i have no desire to buy new cards so its probably for the best
yeah this is where the internet kinda ruins things. last time I played one of my pals had this really cool utility control deck that I was really intruiged by, and he said "yeah, it took top 8 at Worlds in France" or something
its definitely frustrating going to a tournament and just running into the same decks over and over again, especially when those decks are full of $40-$50 cards that are stupidly overpowered. the whole "mythic rare" thing made me stop playing right away
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
haha he sounds like a mtg hipster
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i just think deckbuilding is a lost art. i used to love those late night mountain dew sessions where you'd tweak a deck for two hours then get massacred when you actually played someone good. i don't think i could stand going to a tournament and have my opponent know every card in my deck within the first 2 turns
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mostly play draft these days since it's more fun than constructed almost all the time. you get to actually play with all the cards sooner or later whereas in constructed you're playing with just the best 10-20%. plus there's a whole extra level of strategy in drafting and constructing a good deck and also figuring out interactions on the fly since you're playing a deck you've never played before against a deck you've never seen before.
― smh, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
i'm really bad at it tbqh
― smh, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
what I like w/ draft or sealed is that a lot of times a card that would have been totally out of consideration for a scientifically-made deck can often be very, very strong
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it seems like 60-80% of the commons and uncommons these days are designed to interact with each other, which is neat
one of my favorite moves in sealed/draft, is to just straight out bluff. like to just attack with a 2/2 even though your opponent clearly has an untapped 3/3 out there, prompting the opponent to think, "well, i'm probably gonna get fucked if I block, so I'll just take it". it especially works well in pre-releases because most players don't know what the hell type of cards are in the set.
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
its not a broken card in theory because it's only as good as the other cards in your deck, but being able to double up on all your counterspells and removal is just insane in practice
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
wau @ $31 for that card
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
31 is overpriced it's actually like $20-25 but thats the most expensive a regular rare's gotten to since they started mythic rares. the card has been out for only a couple months and its already a staple card in legacy and vintage
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
its especially crazy to think about it in vintage where you can use it to get a second ancestral recall or time walk
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it would be tremendous in those formats
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
haha I sorta want to be a vintage player (when did they stop calling it type 1?) w/ a $5000 deck
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
i think they named vintage and legacy when they split them off from each other a while back but the names took a while to stick
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
i would def be up for some innistrad on cockatrice btw, either block constructed or sealed (i'll look for a good sealed generator)
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
this one time I was playing in a local tournament (I was ~9) and actually doing really well and then the guy who I was playing against, who would talk to me about how did he heroin and was and sorta off the hinge, claimed that the thawing glaciers in my deck wasn't allowed in type 2 and for some reason we looked it up and it looked like it was banned? so I was disqualified. but then when I got home I looked it up again and it was only banned in type 1.5 for some reason. anyway...tragic childhood memory.
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
it was fairly difficult for me to be a competitive player on a $5 a week allowance
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
^^^real talk from youth
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
did you guys read the duelist or inquest or scrye?
oh yeah the duelist was great, the other ones I looked at once in a while
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
I loved the puzzles
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
Ok let's play tonight should be home by 12
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
great!
yeah i never played in tournaments when i was a kid, we just played during recess at school
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
yes! this was the coolest feature!
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
i got a spirit of the night in my first mirage booster and i was like completely overjoyed, and then someone stole it at school a few days later. i never did figure out who
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
man it is eerie how many specific booster backs I can remember opening, I should write an 'a la recherche du temps perdu' type book about my childhood and mtg
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
here's the mechanics info for anyone who wants to venture into innistrad:http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157a
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
i'm reading about recent vintage tournament decks now. these things are wacky.
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
it seems like it's badass power blue deck w/ every good card ever vs badass power blue deck w/ every good card ever vs. badass power blue deck w/ every good card ever
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
i'm down for some type 2 if anyones got it. i have a good deck built that's almost block but it has some m12 in it. otherwise i can just sub the cards out
― ...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Friday, 16 December 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
there's also badass artifact deck with Mishra's Workshop but i think even those play the good blue cards
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
oh i guess not, no ancestral in herehttp://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/773
seeing Slash Panther, a card which was ignored in every other format except draft, in a vintage deck is funny but i guess it's the most aggressive creature that's easy to cast off a workshop
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
hah i like that deck a lot
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
ok http://www.magicdraftsim.com/ has a sealed deck simulator, just set to 6 Innistrad packs and it should give you a cardpool and a little interface to deckbuild, and there's an export button that puts it in a text format that you can paste into cockatrice's deck editor
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
cooooool
― Mordy, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
thanks dude!
(i feel really dumb asking but who are you on reg ilx?)
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
ciderpress
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
oh! hey man. i don't remember you posting on the magic thread there but otherwise i was like "who is this guy who is posting on a lot of the threads i'm posting on?"
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i just got back into magic this past year mostly and the reg ilx version of this thread's been dead a while
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah last time thread was active ppl were using mws which was a complete pain in the ass to get working (on mac at least). i'm loving cockatrice tho
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
cockatrice is pretty perfect outside the terrible deck construction options
― Mordy, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
ya mws had great deck construction options and a sealed deck generator but would crash all the time and would have the weirdest impossible to fix bugs
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
it's disappointing that they couldn't build a better deck construction side of this, you wouldn't even think that would be so difficult? it's mostly just organizing already-organized data....
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i agree it's just sorting a database
― cad, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah hopefully it's in the works, cockatrice is fairly new still
― smh, Friday, 16 December 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
iatee just got home if youre still around im up for a game or two
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 16 December 2011 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah I'm still around pm me
― iatee, Friday, 16 December 2011 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
^^ had a fun time despite getting my ass handed to me :D
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 17 December 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah it was def fun
I'm prob gonna be out of the game for a while cause my gf's on vacation and I have to spend time w/ her instead of playing a card game online w/ strangers. but luckily - her vacation isn't that long.
― iatee, Saturday, 17 December 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
haha 'have to'... cant wait till im off for winter break tho ugh
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 17 December 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
(cough)
anyone want to play tonight
― iatee, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
i have recently tried playing more mtg, after finding a stash of old cards in my game cabinet. they are all from 1997 or before; i played with a bunch of dudes who had all these new cards and i couldn't quite understand what any of them did.
that being said i remember being able to really fuck people up really quickly with black decks.
― NZA, Monday, 2 January 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
it and red seemed to be the ones most primarily decidated to damaging opponents.
― NZA, Monday, 2 January 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 23 December 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 24 December 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link